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Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Civilization was built on government and bureaucracy. Bureaucracy maintained the Roman Empire for hundreds of years. Bureaucracy won the world wars. American bureaucracy beat Soviet bureaucracy in the Cold War.

Libertarianism is anarchy. The glorification of it in American culture is a Reaganite phenomenon. The rot started there.

Probably the most ignorant post I've ever seen on these boards

[Boptop]

Weber calls bureaucracy the iron cage.

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Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bingo. It's why raiding here has always been shit.

Then, how is a ban like this supposed to be effective if all the same people are just likely going to make new accounts and do all of this over again?

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Originally Posted by plzrelax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then, how is a ban like this supposed to be effective if all the same people are just likely going to make new accounts and do all of this over again?

I didn't say it'd be effective nor do I expect it to be.

[plzrelax]

Well yeah...

[Dolalin]

Bureaucracy is organization and coordination. It's the only way yet devised to run a country at scale, and for all its flaws, it works.

For the intricate and complex Roman bureaucracy which persisted between emperors, this thread provides an accessible overview:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...an_bureaucracy

For the 20th century, it suffices to look at how the militaries of the great powers were run. Every single one that proved successful was a bureaucratic machine.

Here's a brief defence of military bureaucracy from an officer and instructor at West Point:

https://mwi.usma.edu/defense-military-bureaucrat/

So since this is R&F, might I suggest that if you genuinely think bureaucracy is anything but essential and necessary, you have your head up your arse.

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Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bureaucracy is organization and coordination. It's the only way yet devised to run a country at scale, and for all its flaws, it works.

For the intricate and complex Roman bureaucracy which persisted between emperors, this thread provides an accessible overview:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...an_bureaucracy

For the 20th century, it suffices to look at how the militaries of the great powers were run. Every single one that proved successful was a bureaucratic machine.

Here's a brief defence of military bureaucracy from an officer and instructor at West Point:

https://mwi.usma.edu/defense-military-bureaucrat/

So since this is R&F, might I suggest that if you genuinely think bureaucracy is anything but essential and necessary, you have your head up your arse.

I'll remember that the next time I read about how The Pentagon paid 10K for a toilet seat on an airplane

[Dolalin]

You should. If you can find a better way to run a trillion dollar military, let's hear it.

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Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should. If you can find a better way to run a trillion dollar military, let's hear it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNAgFhh1ji4