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Originally Posted by mickmoranis
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This just in: Liberals believe more that a spy, subverted detection for over 60 years, was elected president, and is secretly working with the russians to ????
...more than they do, that a wall can be built.
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Moving goalposts, thy name is MAGAhatter.
No one has ever accused Trump of being a spy for Russia. They've accused him of being compromised by the Russian government in the form of A) Blackmail in the form pictures of Trump being peed on by prostitutes, B) Documents proving a history of illegal business activities, and C) Ongoing financial incentives in the form of 'pay to play', thus creating both a stick (the blackmail) and a carrot (ongoing payments). This variety and method of compromising a foreign national, known as 'kompromat', is a hallmark of the Russian intelligence community. No one credible is suggesting that the Russian government intended to create some kind of 'Manchurian Candidate' when they developed this kompromat on Trump. Rather, they developed this over the past several decades as a matter of course, as a matter of standard practice of the Russian intelligence community in regards to foreign investors.
When Trump started to receive support in his Presidential run, the Russian intelligence agency shit themselves at their good fortune. They were in a position to blackmail a, surprisingly, legitimate Presidential candidate. Someone smart at FIS convinced the powers that be to see the bigger picture. If they could *support* Trump, they might not have a candidate to blackmail, they might have a nominee to blackmail. The absolute worst case outcome, from the FIS perspective was some chaos and erosion of trust in the US political system, and that's still a win. What happened is what no sane person would have predicted, and Trump was elected to the office of President.
Their investment in kompromat on foreign investors having paid off beyond their wildest dreams, the Russian government in the form of Putin and his top advisors began to consider how they might put their ability to blackmail the President of the United States to use. Unsurprisingly, they immediately thought of themselves and their most important supporters - the Russian oligarchs who
had $16 Billion frozen due to US sanctions on Russia. Trump recently moved to relax those sanctions.
That seems an awfully lot more convincing than a guy who said, "I'm gonna build a wall and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it!", now refusing to allow the government to function unless the US taxpayer funds his wall, ever actually getting his wall. Or fence. Or short garden hedge. Not to mention that even should reality completely cease being reasonable, and Trump somehow winds up with funding for his monument to his own idiocy, nothing would be getting built for
years.
Let's consider what building a wall means. Well, it requires an environmental impact assessment. That takes a few months to complete. ANd then it can be challenged by anyone with an interest in that stretch of land. Nearby landowners, environmentalists, anyone who might have a problem with how the funds were secured assuming congress doesn't specifically appropriate money for a wall, and even people who would live on the other side of it. The bigger stretch of land you're talkin about, the more people that have an interest in it, and they
all have a legal right to present their arguments to a judge and jury about why the wall shouldn't be built how it is, where it is, by whom, or even when it is. ANd some of them will win. And then the plans will have to be changed. And thats just an environmental assessment. You wanna talk eminent domain and the legal battles that will go on each and every time the federal government has to use that?
The Keystone XL pipeline started over a decade ago, and still hasn't finished. As much attention as has been brought to that, it's nowhere
near the lightning rod that building a wall on the southern border is. Trump and his tribe would be lucky to be able to get a shovel into the ground on any kind of wall construction in the next decade.
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