End Times

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the generators they had got flooded(11/12) and failed but i don't see a reality where we can deliver enough portable generators to supply a nuclear plant. just scale.

In the 24 hours that batteries supplied aux power, you could have helicoptered and daisy chained diesel jennys.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the 24 hours that batteries supplied aux power, you could have helicoptered and daisy chained diesel jennys.

I doubt your power calculations but here's an image macro anyway

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[reznor_]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt your power calculations but here's an image macro anyway

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lol I work in power. But ok.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yucca mountain was perfect, but Harry Reid made a deal with Barack Obama (tinfoil-ish, I know) to give him the electoral votes if Obama supported the closure of Yucca mountain.

It wouldn't be all that surprising.

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will never agree that other power sources are as safe and effective as nuclear.

Oil seems to be the worst, from South America to California, etc.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/cal...-idle-cleanup/

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will chime in on Chernobyl, since every anti-nuke in this thread uses it as scapegoat.

Well, that and Three Mile Island. And of course now there's that more recent example that comes to mind.

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The brass tacks are: the design was flawed from the outset. The Soviets made a terrible design using POSITIVE VOID COEFFICIENTS, which are different (and bad) from NEGATIVE VOID COEFFICIENTS. What this means is: in a normal (well designed) nuclear reactor, as the fuel heats up, the fuel becomes less reactive, meaning that if there is some power excursion, the fuel's physics are leveraged to stop it from fissioning, and help mitigate any kind of accident. These are the PWR (pressurized water reactor) and BWR (boiling water reactor). Chernobyl was an RBMK model, and had POSITIVE VOID COEFFICIENTS. Every other reactor has NEGATIVE VOID COEFFICIENTS, which help safely shut it down in the event of an accident scenario. Chernobyl went into a catastrophic accident phase because as the fuel heated up and the cooling water evaporated, the fuel became more and more reactive. This led to the accident.

The description of Leningrad's made it sound like more trouble than it was worth, with round the clock upkeep.

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't hear about the direct deaths from coal and gas and wind, but they're there. They just aren't as sexy as direct deaths from nuclear.

True, unless people are still potentially alive underground. Then it becomes a recurring news segment.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/19...er-and-divided

But even so...

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ic-low-in-2020

[Jibartik]

We're not talking about miners trapped in caves. Coal-fired power plants and other sources of fossil fuel air pollution cause an estimated 8.7 million deaths worldwide in 2018, a new study finds: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/02/...ar-study-says/

Those deaths are caused by jane fonda and other hippies that convinced flower loving americans that nuke power is bad because they hated the man and war.

[Jibartik]

And to bring this back to the thread topic: isnt it funny that the ONE THING that the hippies actually got rid of on their laundry list of inhumanities... is the one thing that would make fossil fuel obsolete

That's because hippies are the playthings of satan.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not talking about miners trapped in caves. Coal-fired power plants and other sources of fossil fuel air pollution cause an estimated 8.7 million deaths worldwide in 2018, a new study finds: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/02/...ar-study-says/

Those deaths are caused by jane fonda and other hippies that convinced flower loving americans that nuke power is bad because they hated the man and war.

Satsop is a sad monument to go past but that reactor design caused big problems elsewhere(Hanford) so meh.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Satsop is a sad monument to go past

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not talking about miners trapped in caves. Coal-fired power plants and other sources of fossil fuel air pollution cause an estimated 8.7 million deaths worldwide in 2018, a new study finds: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/02/...ar-study-says/

Those deaths are caused by jane fonda and other hippies that convinced flower loving americans that nuke power is bad because they hated the man and war.

Pointing a finger at them without indicating any culpability on the part of the actual companies is an interesting choice, unless that is just to be assumed. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and pointer fingers.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pointing a finger at them without indicating any culpability on the part of the actual companies is an interesting choice, unless that is just to be assumed. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and pointer fingers.

That's what I am saying, that pointing your finger with good intentions at nuke power has paved our way to hell, thanks jane fonda.