Should there really be a red 2.0? The age old question

[pink grapefruit]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red only makes sense in a TLP environment where the new populaton can:

1) Use DLCs to get their raid gear

2) join a server that isn't so far ahead of them that they can actually catch up and have a job at the same time.

TLP PvP may get you a few hardcores looking for a more technically accurate classic PvP. But there just isn't a big enough population to keep a Red any bigger than the current one.

Meanwhile, EQ PvP was tested for popularity with making the Zek server free. It didn't show the kind of popularity they are looking for. I don't necessarily think it was conclusive. But it will be hard to get DarkPaw to try it without some kind of evidence it could be good business.

uh...

as more expansion came in EQ, PvP got worse and worse. by the time the Zek merge happened the devs had effectively killed what made eq pvp fun and interesting.

the luclin expansion introduced the first zones where pvp was disabled: the nexus and the bazaar. it got worse with pop including the books and plane of tranquility. pvp would happen near the zone outs, and people would just click back to the lame pvp "safe zones". then instancing became a thing. then they removed the corpse runs from pvp deaths and made us all spawn in some bullshit graveyard zone when we died in pvp.

luclin was the beginning of the end for eq pvp. why would anyone ever play a pvp live progression server, when it would quickly advance to a point in the game's history where pvp is effectively coded out of the game?

no. project 1999 is our best hope for a chance at experiencing eq pvp as it was. and the devs here have told us that a second pvp server is coming, so it's really just a matter of time before red 2.0 (or purple, or w/e) is released.

[Baler]

I would not be upset if the timeline stopped at kunark.

[Tunabros]

That's what Ive been saying

RED IS FINE BY ITSELF

just retards like the pink apple person think that it's dead?!

JUST PLAY ON IT

HOLY SHIT!

[pink grapefruit]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what Ive been saying

RED IS FINE BY ITSELF

just retards like the pink apple person think that it's dead?!

JUST PLAY ON IT

HOLY SHIT!

what would be ideal is a green-style pvp server. if the server reset back to day one after the sleeper was woken there would be a healthy population on red all the time.

i vote we wipe red and start that up tbh.

[Arvan]

a new red would be good just to get some of the worst people off of blue and green as a sort of labor camp or something other than that who cares

[Tunabros]

Originally Posted by pink grapefruit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what would be ideal is a green-style pvp server. if the server reset back to day one after the sleeper was woken there would be a healthy population on red all the time.

i vote we wipe red and start that up tbh.

think your part of the problem in why people think red is dead

hope this helps, pink apple

[Fammaden]

If red was just not red then people would play on it!

Solid PvP moron logic.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pink apple person

[pink grapefruit]

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when i made my account i wasn't sure what to call it and there was some of this stuff on my desk.

[Fammaden]

I'm sure when you have fifty fucking forum alt accounts it starts to get tedious coming up with names, yes.