Miscellaneous: Facesmasher - current specs out of timeline

[Rygar]

I believe there to be a bunch of weapons and items from NToV that have always been in the October 2001 patch timeline, but were originally released with much less specs.

For now will focus on Facesmasher. This link shows the wiki page that has a P99 user linking the current 48/42 stats which I believe to be incorrect at this point in the Velious timeline.

The following link to Afterlife's website shows them linking a Facesmasher loot on 5/27/2001:
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/templa...ndex_may_oct01

Jorlleag Dropped:
Facesmasher Onyx Chain Leggings

Note they link the Facesmasher in a separate link:
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images...acesmasher.jpg

Note that it has the following stats:
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Skill: 2H Blunt
35 Dmg / 55 Delay
STA: +15 HP: +100
WT: 0.0 Size: Tiny
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD SHM
Race: ALL

Note that there is no AC, the terrible ratio by comparison, and that it is NOT Monk usable. I believe these to be the original stats to the item. I am not sure when it was changed to what I would call the 'Intermediate version', but at some point it was changed to this according to wayback machine (last update to the actual item was 8/10/2001, so it was changed somewhere between 5/27/2001 and 8/10/2001):

http://web.archive.org/web/200112170...html?item=6491

Stats have changed to:
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Skill: 2H Blunt
37 Dmg / 40 Delay
AC: 25
STR: +25 STA: +15 HP: +100
WT: 0.0 Size: Tiny
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD SHM
Race: ALL

Note the addition of AC, STR, and ratio of 37/40, still not monk usable.

In that same link, in the notes section is a post dated 11/1/2001 that reads:

This is now:
48dam 42delay 25ac 25str 15sta 100hp and is monk usuable

Prayingmantis
Grandmaster

I would call that the (disputed) 'Final Version' which I believe you currently have implemented in game. Best I can correlate is this occurred on the 10/8/2001 patch note (bold for emphasis):
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html

Two-Handed Weapons have been given an increased damage bonus for characters over level 50. Also, certain post-epic quality two-handers have been improved.

I call this the 'disputed' Final Version as there was some speculation if you would even make the updates into the 'final timeline' patch. Some of those upgrades seem to be made in anticipation of Luclin release which we are never going to be in. So not sure if you would even include this final version (I honestly hope not and it stays 37/40... no reason monks need another crazy weapon and triple attack!).

I hope the info is useful, in my spare time I'll try and track down the rest of the pre-upgraded items.

[Rygar]

Was doing some additional search criteria and saw Ele made a similar post to this (thread now closed):
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...light=jorlleag

He posted a bunch of screenshots, didn't happen to notice specific links to dates on sites... was it found that his info was insufficient and needed more data or is it decided not to bother with implementing the pre-upgraded version of weapons to ToV?

I would be happy to research more for specific dates / wayback links / patch notes if that is what you need, but wouldn't waste my time if you were not interested in implementing the older items into the timeline.

[Erati]

For the green server this is what is needed for a Velious true to timeline launch

would love to see items in ToV not start off as powerful as they currently are so progression takes a tiny bit longer when P99 Green is released

[nilbog]

This should be working now.

If there are additional issues with this, create a new bug report.

Moving to resolved.