Any good guides for GINA?

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's pretty classic. I had log readers back in the day.

You had log readers...that created graphical overlays to display real time game information on top of the game?

[kylok]

I'm not sure why people are upset specifically about the overlays. I can't prove it, but I'd be incredibly surprised if some of the people who used log parsers in 1999/2000 didn't also have that information in real time on a second monitor/computer.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure why people are upset specifically about the overlays. I can't prove it, but I'd be incredibly surprised if some of the people who used log parsers in 1999/2000 didn't also have that information in real time on a second monitor/computer.

Cause it’s pretty much cheating. Lol

You guys can rationalize it all you want, but people don’t like it because you’re cheating and they don’t want to have to cheat as well to be on an even playing field.

[kylok]

I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what cheating is. Imo cheating would be MQ, ShowEQ, other stuff that injects code and/or provide information that is otherwise not made available to you. I don't feel that setting a timer for a spell with a known duration fits that criteria.

[Vexenu]

Log parsing was definitely a thing, although even that was really only done by a small group of people who wanted to figure out how AC worked or see how much damage their raid force was putting out. But most players were not parsing logs for any purpose whatsoever. Graphical overlays and real-time reading of logs was definitely NOT a thing that I ever heard of in the classic era. I challenge anyone to find evidence of such a thing from old websites or forum posts.

[Ferahgo]

I don't believe it to be a cheat but only being resourceful with the log data. You could potentially create 'buff timers' using Windows 10 Alarms & Clock. GINA is just far more efficient.

[Videri]

I don’t think anyone is saying overlays and buff timers and audio triggers were classic.

Even if we assume the devs don’t want us to use GINA, it’s my understanding they can’t enforce a rule against it.

As a Mac player, I can’t use it anyway. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what cheating is. Imo cheating would be MQ, ShowEQ, other stuff that injects code and/or provide information that is otherwise not made available to you. I don't feel that setting a timer for a spell with a known duration fits that criteria.

Like I said, you can rationalize it all you want. Cheaters often times don’t think what they do is unfair.

But that shit is cheating and that’s why people don’t like it.

[Donkey Hotay]

Here's some irony that only GINA users are capable of understanding:

This project is in part possible due to preserved logs from the classic era.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's some irony that only GINA users are capable of understanding:

This project is in part possible due to preserved logs from the classic era.

Neat fact.

Still cheating.