Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Gloomlord]

Of course he'll say "because you're a baddie" or some such crap, won't he?

[Guesty07]

Still waiting for parse

[bobjonesp99]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still waiting for parse

your more likely to bump into elvis and tupac having a drink at the bar

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

miniscule increases in damage requiring rapid weapon swaps, good ping and fast mouse clicking permitting, isn't worth the effort

It's not "miniscule" increases. Stop saying that. It is a very significant increase and it doesn't require good ping or fast mouse clicking if you don't have a lot of haste (which is something that will happen during various periods of a melee's lifetime). Even when it does require that, you're simply talking about personal capability. Whether it's worth the effort or not depends on someone's ability and willingness.

You have a major attitude issue, btw. Nothing you write is constructive and you constantly are making incorrect assumptions.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you miss your main hand swings once because they're replaced by a punch this will LOWER your DPS

That never happens if you're doing it properly. It's not even difficult to avoid that.

I don't see how a click macro for this would be punishable either. It's not some kind of AFK bot or client modification or anything like that, and regular macros and things like GINA timers are already being used.

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still waiting for parse

It's already been shown, and anyone can easily do it themself, both the math (https://jklein.me/eqcalc/ - set the offhand weapon speed to whatever your primary is) and a simple test with no haste to get the hang of it.

[Naethyn]

Gina doesn't interact with the client. A click macro is not allowed.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gina doesn't interact with the client. A click macro is not allowed.

Exactly. Gina just reads the logs and provides feedback from there. It's not allowed on P99 to use a program that automatically mimics key presses.

You need to manually press all of the keys you are using, even when using Gina.

As far as I am aware, P99 macros canot be used to equip/unequip an item. You need to click with your mouse to do it.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gina doesn't interact with the client.

Yes it does. Live tracking the game data and responding to it. Much different than a simple log file.

How would a very basic click macro even be detectable for this? If someone is not AFK and not doing something that isn't humanly possible already, then there's no smoking gun to point at. Regular macros already allow people to automate pauses that can't be exactly timed with human perception, and to do actions that would normally take more clicks and/or button presses. I would argue GINA introduces more of "cheat" than a weapon swap macro; there is no in-game timer for when mezzes and such are going to end. Having a program that tracks all of it perfectly and tells you in advance is a big advantage.

And really, with the ping disparity that has been brought up, a weapon swap macro would make the playing field more fair. Poor Gloomy with his Australian ping is mad as hell, it's not his fault he was born in the Desert of Ro, and I've experienced that problem in several games myself (including this one with zone loading times; very impactful for PvP).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it does. Live tracking the game data and responding to it. Much different than a simple log file.

When you are playing the game with logs enabled, Gina just reads the data being written into your log file. It checks for specific text and uses that for triggers. Gina isn't doing anything to the client executable. It says as much on the website:

https://eq.gimasoft.com/gina/Default.aspx

Introducing GINA, a log monitoring application that provides audio and visual feedback based on triggers you either define or import.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How would a very basic click macro even be detectable for this?

The P99 client does check what you and your PC is doing to some degree. This includes checking for third party programs. Most people don't want to risk getting banned, even at the cost of losing some DPS. Using a click macro is against the rules:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=324838

Third party programs (MQ2 or SEQ, for example), Real Money Trades (RMT), and multi-boxing are not allowed on this server, and will result in a permanent ban for your account.

[Zuranthium]

What you linked doesn't say having click software on your computer is disallowed. A click program doesn't interact with the game code. It just tells your computer to perform a pre-defined motion of clicks on your own screen. Much like software for people with broken/dismembered hands that tells their computer to perform clicks based on eye movement.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you linked doesn't say having click software on your computer is disallowed. A click program doesn't interact with the game code. It just tells your computer to perform a pre-defined motion of clicks on your own screen. Much like software for people with broken/dismembered hands that tells their computer to perform clicks based on eye movement.

A click program is a third party program.