Upcoming change to class epics - Page 13

AzzarTheGod · #**121** 09-01-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I get home later I'll look up all the epic quest and make suggestions on which hand in should have a lvl check. See how that is felt by the staff.

They want to add an item-level requirement ala Luclin Era restriction to epics. So you cannot equip the epic before 46, even if you farmed and worked hard for thousands of hours to earn your twink his epic.

Maybe you missed that part. Nobody is saying 46+ to do the turn-in is wrong.

We are saying THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED TIME INTO THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND SAVED PLATINUM AND FARMED FOR MONTHS/YEARS TO EARN THEIR EPIC HAVE WASTED THEIR TIME BECAUSE THEIR ITEM WON'T BE ABLE TO BE EQUIPPED AFTER THIS CHANGE GOES LIVE.

THE ITEM RESTRICTION IS WHERE THE CORE ARGUMENT SHOULD BE. CHANGING TO 46+ DOES NOT AFFECT AS MUCH AS TAKING ITEMS AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO ALREADY EARNED THEM.

PEOPLE EARNED THEIR ITEMS AND THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY.

Does that make sense now why people are upset? Yeesh nobody cares about the 46+ turn-in change. Its the item restriction that is causing hard-earned leveling twinks to LOSE THEIR ITEM THAT THEY PUT THE TIME IN FOR.

How are people not getting this?

woad · #**122** 09-01-2015, 05:26 PM

I am so shocked by how many people are praising this change ! first of all earning 25 to 100k takes a lot of dedication and farming . you have to kill , sell and trade your wares and then kill some more and then hope to find someone actually selling the epic parts you need . some require raid forces some don't . its just as epic as the epic IMHO! especially if you are not guilded !
the reason people buy these items for their twinks is because they are the best items available , you think people will quit twinking? NO! they are going to start paying 500k for frostreaver and willsapper loot rights and believe in 5 years of the same expansion that stuff will ROT OFTEN .
IMHO if you want to take MQ's out or make the level reqs 46 or whatever fine but don't punish those who have already put in the work to earn these items . there should be some grandfathered thing where those who have already gotten the quest finished can still equip .
and as far as the RMT fix they will prolly just go full blown into power leveling so all the noob zones will be bard swarmed to death .
but while we are making drastic changes I say we go ahead and make fungi tunics level restricted too since its by far the most USEFUL of all items to any class who can equip far greater than any epic at low levels .

Rararboker · #**123** 09-01-2015, 05:31 PM

Azzar, you should read instead of rage. There is no lvl check for the turn ins. They are only adding lvl requirements to the items. Which is why I'm saying they shouldnt add lvl requirements to the items. Doing that stops everyone in the future as well as people who did this in the past. People who couldn't have known this was going to happen. L2Read

**Haynar** · #**124** 09-01-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They want to add an item-level requirement ala Luclin Era restriction to epics. So you cannot equip the epic before 46, even if you farmed and worked hard for thousands of hours to earn your twink his epic.

Maybe you missed that part. Nobody is saying 46+ to do the turn-in is wrong.

We are saying THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED TIME INTO THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND SAVED PLATINUM AND FARMED FOR MONTHS/YEARS TO EARN THEIR EPIC HAVE WASTED THEIR TIME BECAUSE THEIR ITEM WON'T BE ABLE TO BE EQUIPPED AFTER THIS CHANGE GOES LIVE.

THE ITEM RESTRICTION IS WHERE THE CORE ARGUMENT SHOULD BE. CHANGING TO 46+ DOES NOT AFFECT AS MUCH AS TAKING ITEMS AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO ALREADY EARNED THEM.

PEOPLE EARNED THEIR ITEMS AND THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY.

Does that make sense now why people are upset? Yeesh nobody cares about the 46+ turn-in change. Its the item restriction that is causing hard-earned leveling twinks to LOSE THEIR ITEM THAT THEY PUT THE TIME IN FOR.

How are people not getting this?

Our sandbox. Get over it. Its happening.

If it ruins your fun ganking lowbies, the door is that way. ==>

Telron · #**125** 09-01-2015, 05:37 PM

Ha ha ha to the twink rogues who paid to pk newbs in cloth lol.

Rararboker · #**126** 09-01-2015, 05:38 PM

Gotta say, this sucks from a blue99 perspective. But it makes me way more interested in red99 again. Getting chased by that stupid epic ranger in unrest was annoying even if he couldn't snare or root me.

AzzarTheGod · #**127** 09-01-2015, 05:41 PM

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Our sandbox. Get over it. Its happening.

If it ruins your fun ganking lowbies, the door is that way. ==>

Whats wrong with adding the 46+ item restriction to red99 and leaving blue alone?

Can we get a comment on a possible reasonable compromise instead? Its the levelers on blue this change is affecting the most.

That is why people are upset. Nobody cares about your handful of 3-5 degenerate gankers on red99 that are forcing this change. BAN THE GRIEFERS ITS AGAINST THE PNP CLEARLY IN THE RULES.

Add a restriction to red somehow to preserve the classic Project 1999 twinking. Or just ban the griefing scumbags, as there are already rules in place which state that griefing is a bannable offense. Whatever it takes to leave Blue alone.

The door is that way? How about just looking at whats been done in the past when Red99 has become a problem, which is SERVER SPECIFIC GAMEPLAY MODIFICATIONS.

Gustoo · #**128** 09-01-2015, 05:42 PM

Cool now with this change we are all ready for item loot implementation either on this server or preferably on the next server. Thanks staff.

**Haynar** · #**129** 09-01-2015, 05:47 PM

Can anyone give me a reason, other than leveling faster, why not having an epic at low levels is game breaking? Help me understand this. Really.

I can see the red ganking noobs. But what else is there that makes having an epic at low levels important?

AzzarTheGod · #**130** 09-01-2015, 05:53 PM

Why can't existing epics be grandfathered in? If you insist on a 46+ item restriction change even for the Blue server.

This 46+ item restriction change should at least grandfather in the existing Blue epics, as people have already invested a lot of time into the current system.

Everyone could live with that, then nobody will have wasted any gameplay hours into earning something that is no longer usable.