Cucumbers v Detoxx: An Epic Wiki Battle

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wat

Well 288 hate from just the damage, obv doesnt include the stun

[zanderklocke]

I think the guild tags should be removed from the Server First wiki page. It just looks dumb since none of the pre-Velious stuff has that.

[Kagey]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I deleted a bunch of the server first page stuff for the reason of it being nonsense.

Do you just stick around wiki and these forums to be a complete asshole? You dont even play any more. Stop

There should be server firsts for all sets of ss/kael/thurg, lodi kill, shawl quest, scout tools, vaniki, willsapper.
Velious is a much bigger deal then oldworld peggy cloak server firsts.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SoD overrated and your tanks aren't even aware enough to realize it. Epic MH is better aggro. This server is broken.

I definitely don't agree it's overrated. It might be on project 1999. When I main tanked on both live and EQmac I tested the shit out of agro with SoD, Blade of Carnage, and epic. It wasn't even close. Dual SoDs beat out all other combinations for maintaining agro on every type of mob. As far as stats well that's a different story.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I definitely don't agree it's overrated. It might be on project 1999. When I main tanked on both live and EQmac I tested the shit out of agro with SoD, Blade of Carnage, and epic. It wasn't even close. Dual SoDs beat out all other combinations for maintaining agro on every type of mob. As far as stats well that's a different story.

No way a SoD touches a real BoC. BoC is a better proc with 700 raw hate which is unresistable.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No way a SoD touches a real BoC. BoC is a better proc with 700 raw hate which is unresistable.

You're going by what you believe, I'm going by experience.

[quido]

That's what I'm saying though - I don't have that live bias. I'm speaking from my own experience - not even owning a SoD myself, but seeing how its aggro held up to mine with red blade. It held up abysmally a good number of times, to such a degree that I stopped pre-aggroing on the tank swap stuff.

I suspect it's bugged. Maybe it's just bad RNG.

[Thordoff]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No way a SoD touches a real BoC. BoC is a better proc with 700 raw hate which is unresistable.

Resists should be the same amount of aggro as if the spell landed. Therefore a raw hate proc offers no inherent advantage.

[quido]

It offers a quantitative advantage.

[Bruno]

I would be genuinely interested in hearing from other people's experience testing those three weapons. I look forward to testing it again on Phinny once Velious is released in a few weeks. As Thordoff said, the resist proc still generates agro, making it highly effective even on resistant mobs.