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Old 06-14-2016, 06:38 AM
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Best?

Bard.

Even excluding aoe dot kiting, bards can pull the same charm tricks with room to move that necros and enchanters can do. There's no real down time. Melee dps is bad after your high teens, but dot damage while either face tanking or fearing is actually fairly good. Starting at level 6 the regen lines keep downtime to a minimum and they've got a big enough toolset to deal with a wide range of scenarios as well as a lot of different killing strategies.

At 60 I can load up 360+ dmg a tick in dots while slowing the mob 35% and healing myself for nearly 40 a tick. That's a little over 60 sustained dps while providing enough regen to keep downtime non-existent on trivial content. For more challenging content, charm mobs against each other and toss dots.

In the classical sense, monks are the best raw melee solo folk by a large margin. Great dps plus mend plus great avoidance plus high bind wound.
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:35 AM
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Best?

Bard.

Even excluding aoe dot kiting, bards can pull the same charm tricks with room to move that necros and enchanters can do. There's no real down time. Melee dps is bad after your high teens, but dot damage while either face tanking or fearing is actually fairly good. Starting at level 6 the regen lines keep downtime to a minimum and they've got a big enough toolset to deal with a wide range of scenarios as well as a lot of different killing strategies.

At 60 I can load up 360+ dmg a tick in dots while slowing the mob 35% and healing myself for nearly 40 a tick. That's a little over 60 sustained dps while providing enough regen to keep downtime non-existent on trivial content. For more challenging content, charm mobs against each other and toss dots.

In the classical sense, monks are the best raw melee solo folk by a large margin. Great dps plus mend plus great avoidance plus high bind wound.
They may be listed in this subsection, but bards aren't a melee class. Plus OP said they don't wanna play bard
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:26 AM
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Theres a reason there are so many monks on the server.
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They may be listed in this subsection, but bards aren't a melee class. Plus OP said they don't wanna play bard
Bards aren't a *raw* melee class. If you choose to classify it in the purist sense, only warrior, monk and rogue fit the bill there. If rangers, shadowknights and paladins are to be considered in this conversation, so should bards.

So, Regardless of how you feel they are best classified ... of the classes listed within this subsection, bards make the best solo class by a fair margin even if you intentionally ignore the aoe dot kiting bit.

If you take bards out of the equation, monk class wins head and shoulders above any other class (twinked or otherwise).
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Bards aren't a *raw* melee class. If you choose to classify it in the purist sense, only warrior, monk and rogue fit the bill there. If rangers, shadowknights and paladins are to be considered in this conversation, so should bards.

So, Regardless of how you feel they are best classified ... of the classes listed within this subsection, bards make the best solo class by a fair margin even if you intentionally ignore the aoe dot kiting bit.

If you take bards out of the equation, monk class wins head and shoulders above any other class (twinked or otherwise).
try actually reading the OP instead of making more pointless posts and wasint peoples time with your laziness and lack of game knowledge.

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Theres a reason there are so many monks on the server.
It has noting to do with their ability to specifically solo, which isn't a fraction of what Sk's are capable of.
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Bards aren't a *raw* melee class. If you choose to classify it in the purist sense, only warrior, monk and rogue fit the bill there. If rangers, shadowknights and paladins are to be considered in this conversation, so should bards.

So, Regardless of how you feel they are best classified ... of the classes listed within this subsection, bards make the best solo class by a fair margin even if you intentionally ignore the aoe dot kiting bit.

If you take bards out of the equation, monk class wins head and shoulders above any other class (twinked or otherwise).
OP asked for best melee solo class, which implies he wants to solo via melee combat. Bard is awful at melee combat, and will solo well only when avoiding melee combat. My best guesses as to why they're in the melee subsection? They dual wield, wear plate, and don't fit in the other subsections.
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i dont want play bard..
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Why the hell would you spend a bunch of cash on MoSS over something like PWC?

Cause you are dumb, maybe, and don't know what you are talking about?
maybe you're above level 50?

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You're comparing yourself to the worst soloing class in EQ, my rogue has a primal and it can't solo very efficiently. Also you're ignoring that bow kiting only works in outdoor zones, which are typically worse for EXP than dungeons.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:30 AM
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maybe you're above level 50?


You don't even need give it up if you don't want. just fight in areas nearby where necros like to hang out and get DMF + those butcher gloves = proc just adds more to the already high DPS.

Or just sell it, get your money back for it, and buy a different weapon at 50+.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:10 AM
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You don't even need give it up if you don't want. just fight in areas nearby where necros like to hang out and get DMF + those butcher gloves = proc just adds more to the already high DPS.

Or just sell it, get your money back for it, and buy a different weapon at 50+.
I play on red, you're lucky to find another player in your zone. But yeah that's the same flaw as ranger bow-kiting: you're limiting yourself to a select few zones which are not optimal for leveling

PWC is solid 1-49 but you better have a game plan before you ding. And even then a SK with a PWC is a shit tiered soloer compared to a monk with a 100pp staff in cured silk with a BW macro.
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