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Old 11-02-2019, 03:24 PM
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Default Ant's Potion shouldn't be craftable until Feb 2000 alchemy revamp

Shrink is currently not in the game (was added in summer of 1999) so it makes no sense to have Ant's Potions be craftable.

I checked when these were added and it seems they weren't in game until the Feb 2000 alchemy revamp patch.

Here's a post from Dec 1999 suggesting shamans should get the ability to craft a shrink potion:

Quote:
12/9/99

It would be nice if Shamans could make a shrink potion with the soon to be
fixed alchemy skill, or perhaps be able to buy such a potion from vendors at
a reasonable price (although I think player made would be much better).

Getting around in dungeons with an ogre or troll in your party is just painful in every way unless they are shrunk.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....c/s-dWJgQk38QJ
And here are people talking in Jan 2000 about an upcoming addition of a shrink item to replace the nerfed Guise (this is why it was added btw):

Quote:
1/20/00

Elod <Ro...@bleat.com> wrote

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:23:02 -0800, "Dorian Brytestar"
> <ri...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Hehe, I am just waiting for the posts saying that they have nerfed
shamans because of
> >the shrink item..
>
>
> If they make the shrink item work anywhere, but leave the spell as is,
> then they have nerfed us...

Don't worry.

Latest word is that the Shrink Potion is a Shaman Alchemy product, the herb
will cost 250pp to make it and it will require a high skill level to
succeed.


So, basically, they may as well not have bothered.

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https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....U/9KV5I1syi6oJ
Here is the patch that revamped alchemy one month later:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Patch_N...pell_Changes_4

And here are people talking about making Shrink potions afterwards:

Quote:
4/7/00

> 3) Is Alchemy (now that it is ACTIVE) turning into a big waste of time?

not really. i've made a sizable amount of money after the initial investment
selling spirit of wolf potions. i wish i had the plat to dump into getting my
skill enough for invis undead and shrink, those two are high sellers.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....w/JZmS-BwCpFEJ
Additionally, Ant's Potions shouldn't be usable indoors until July 2000 and this patch:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Patch_Notes#General_Crafts

Don't forget to disable 3 recipes: single Ants Potion, 5 dose, and 10 dose.
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:59 AM
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Bump, people are already making shrink pots when the shrink spell still doesn't enter the game for another few months. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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People can still make 1 and 10 dose ant potions apparently.

I guess with shrink coming out in two weeks this isn't super urgent but should be fixed for the next server. It elevates the Guise to the essential status it had in classic for big races as the only shrink option.

Also note that shrink pots didn't work outdoors until after Kunark release, I mentioned this somewhere already I'm pretty sure, it's in the patch notes.
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Fixed, pending update.
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What is going to happen to any existing ant potions?
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Old 01-25-2020, 06:08 PM
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You can trade them for manastones.
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