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Old 11-04-2019, 02:34 AM
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Yep I goofed, it's 34 air and fire that were missing ��

That's what I get for posting while feeding the baby.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:08 AM
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Yes 39... You know what, you guys can own this one. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I am clearly not on point today.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:55 AM
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mage cant research pets earch past 29 , fire past 34 , its wont let combine.
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:38 PM
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I am looking into the exact recipes required to craft the 'missing' pet levels, to make ensure both the research components and trivials are correct.

However, I am having trouble finding specifics on the following combines:

Minor Conjuration: Earth 34
Minor Conjuration: Water 34
Lesser Conjuration: Air 39
Lesser Conjuration: Fire 39
Greater Conjuration: Earth 49

These are some tabs I have open:

http://www.watson.org/~wander/eq/spells.html

http://www.eqtraders.com/recipes/rec...r=080105000000
http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~guardian/res-mag.html
http://www.oocities.org/valmirvonreed/MageWord.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20010418...t=10&mode=list

I see the wiki lists components for these pet levels, but no source as to where the entries came from. (am I missing something here?)

The OP link also doesn't provide recipes/components for these combines.

I am actively looking into this situation, so any additional research will help.

Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:44 PM
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:10 PM
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I am looking into the exact recipes required to craft the 'missing' pet levels, to make ensure both the research components and trivials are correct.

However, I am having trouble finding specifics on the following combines:

Minor Conjuration: Earth 34
Minor Conjuration: Water 34
Lesser Conjuration: Air 39
Lesser Conjuration: Fire 39
Greater Conjuration: Earth 49

These are some tabs I have open:

http://www.watson.org/~wander/eq/spells.html

http://www.eqtraders.com/recipes/rec...r=080105000000
http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~guardian/res-mag.html
http://www.oocities.org/valmirvonreed/MageWord.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20010418...t=10&mode=list

I see the wiki lists components for these pet levels, but no source as to where the entries came from. (am I missing something here?)

The OP link also doesn't provide recipes/components for these combines.

I am actively looking into this situation, so any additional research will help.

Thanks!

I don’t think they existed, pets were put on merchant to fix this very soon after release when people got there and figured it out.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:39 PM
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It looks like Mage research was... kinda fucked up, heh.

Here's a very old research guide I found on gameznet.com, it lists the following for mage recipes:

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Spells marked with * can be purchased from a vendor
Spells marked GONE have been removed from the game, but still appear in research books
Magician Spells

Lvl Researched Item Component Component Component

Magalil’s Compendium Vol. 1

16 Summon Heatstone* Bloodstone Summon Element Scroll Words of the Element
16 Minor Summoning: Earth* Elemental: Earth Block of Ore Words of Tyranny
16 Minor Summoning: Water* Elemental: Water Shark Skin Words of Tyranny
16 Minor Summoning: Fire* Elemental: Fire Halas Heater Words of Tyranny
16 Minor Summoning: Air* Elemental: Air Aviak Feathers Words of Tyranny

Magalil’s Compendium Vol. 2

20 Lesser Summoning: Earth* Minor Summoning: Earth Topaz Words of Dominion
20 Lesser Summoning: Water* Minor Summoning: Water Ice of Velious Words of Dominion
20 Lesser Summoning: Fire* Minor Summoning: Fire Jade Words of Dominion
20 Lesser Summoning: Air* Minor Summoning: Air Pearl Words of Dominion
24 Cornucopia* Summon Food Loaf of Bread Words of Transcendence
24 Everfount Summon Drink Water Flask Words of Transcendence
24 Summon Coldstone* Summon Heatstone Eyes of Serilis Words of Sight
24 Summon Elemental: Earth Lesser Summoning: Earth Glove of Rallos Zek Words of Coersion
24 Summon Elemental: Water Lesser Summoning: Water Flame of Vox Words of Coersion

Telryd’s Writ

24 Summon Elemental: Mist Lesser Summoning: Air Scent of Marr Words of Duress
24 Summon Elemental: Flame Lesser Summoning: Fire Breath of Solusek Words of Duress
34 Nullify Magic* Cancel Magic Blood of Velious Words of Detection
39 Summon Mystic Dagger* Dagger Words of Collection
44 Summon Ring of Flight* Aviak Feather Words of Collection

Telryd’s Expansive Writ

29 Conjure Elemental: Earth Summon Elemental: Earth Essence of Rathe Words of Incarceration
29 Conjure Elemental: Water Summon Elemental: Water Tears of Prexus Words of Incarceration
29 Conjure Elemental: Flame Summon Elemental: Flame Breath of Ro Words of Bondage
29 Conjure Elemental: Mist Summon Elemental: Mist Wing of Xegony Words of Bondage
http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...EQResearch.doc

Compare the contents of Telryd's Expansive Writ to what Allakhazam has for it... it changed, probably around May when they were fixing research recipes.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=10162

It's possible these recipes simply weren't in the game until they were fixed/spells put on vendors. None of my early mailing lists have any spell recipes for mages over level 29 either.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:52 PM
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Another link to corroborate the above: this must have been the first version of mage research before it was changed to what we know today.

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Posted by Nixx on May 18, 1999 at 18:59:44:

In Reply to: Calling all Magicians!! posted by Xylon on May 18, 1999 at 18:52:50:

: Anyone out there know anything about OUR research??

: Desperate for any info on this!!!

:
: Thank you all..

:
: Xy.

Level 16

Water Elemental
Summon Water Elemental Scroll (level 12)
Shark Skin (purchased around Qeynos and Freeport docks or found on dead sharks)
Words of Tyranny (found on Scarecrow bodies)

Earth Elemental
Summon Earth Elemental Scroll (level 12)
Block of Ore
Words of Tyranny

Flame Elemental
Summon Flame Elemental Scroll (level 12)
Halas Heater (I think this is correct, my Old Euridan isn't the greatest)
Words of Tyranny

Mist Elemental (that's what they call the air elemental at this level, I guess)
Summon Air Elemental Scroll (level 12)
Aviak Feather
Words of Tyranny

Summon Heatstone
Summon Element Scroll (not sure what this is, maybe any level 12 elemental scroll?)
Bloodstone
Words of the Element

Level 24

Mist Elemental
Lesser Summoning Air
Words of Duress
The Scent of Marr (found on vendor in East Commons)

Earth Elemental
Words of Coercion
Gloves of Rallos Zed (found on Lizardmen)
Scroll of earth elemental (level 20)

Mages use: Words and other components in research

who da man? )

Nixx
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:02 PM
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It's not random information: there may not have ever been 34, 39, and 49 earth recipes in the game, because they quite possibly were just put on vendors instead of being implemented in research at all.

For the record I don't think completely breaking the class spell progression for two months is very fair, even though it's pretty classic.
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:05 PM
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Dolalin, you are pretty good at this. I don’t know if you can find it but i eas reading one of the link you provided when your first adressed the situtiin of pets by magician. In one of the thread, there is someone talking about what his friend that is working worh verant as a developper told him about the reason why magician had no pets/research working.

If i remember correctly, he posted that after the fix just to explain. It’s not very solid evidence but it explined that game had been release with magician not finished.

The 2 month delay before patch, we need to understand there wasnt guides to research back then, people probably tried tons of recipe until they figured or got told that it didnt exist.

In the thread i mention it is said the fix never mentionned that it did not exists, they have tried to hide the fact.

Anyway, i am hoping we can get to ply the magician class on a fresh server as intended before everyone gets to 50 and we miss out on some of the fun of early conquest. The merchant pet stayed because really the idea of strting all pets from the level 24 each time just is not viable.

Thx all, let’s hope we can resolve the issue.

Sorry for many spelling mistake not speaking english that well and i am atm on a very small phone.
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