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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it zuckerbergs fault that you choose to work for only $15 an hour?

I am really not a fan of the Mark Zuck, He is the epitome of a hypocrite, pretending to be so apethetic to social causes and inequity (liberal based) but still holds on to his wealth like a fat kid with a cupcake.

All that said I'm not going to blame him for my lack of money. If anything, he has done more for me to make money than hurt me, Even though he's a limey bastard.

do the math for yourself vs zuck, i doubt the result will be much different.

also limey means british

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it zuckerbergs fault that you choose to work for only $15 an hour?

I am really not a fan of the Mark Zuck, He is the epitome of a hypocrite, pretending to be so apethetic to social causes and inequity (liberal based) but still holds on to his wealth like a fat kid with a cupcake.

All that said I'm not going to blame him for my lack of money. If anything, he has done more for me to make money than hurt me, Even though he's a limey bastard.

Its no longer a choice. 21,000 in missing USD on every corporate salary is a serious problem.

These are middle-managers at Fortune 500 companies. They are missing money. 1999 is the statistic you need to be familiar with to have any clue as to what you are talking about.

TopgunbenX (Generation X) aka irrelevant, dated, and out of touch.

People were rehired after 2008 for LESS money at Fortune 500 companies. Its only DECLINED in the face of 4.1 GDP growth. Why?

[AzzarTheGod]

You know...we might even have some Baby Boomers up in here.

TopGunben sounds dusty.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its no longer a choice. 21,000 in missing USD on every corporate salary is a serious problem.

These are middle-managers at Fortune 500 companies. They are missing money. 1999 is the statistic you need to be familiar with to have any clue as to what you are talking about.

TopgunbenX (Generation X) aka irrelevant, dated, and out of touch.

People were rehired after 2008 for LESS money at Fortune 500 companies. Its only DECLINED in the face of 4.1 GDP growth. Why?

And its gonna go down like I said. When its the educated upper middle class that starts losing all their jobs and gets huge pay cuts and expense hikes they can't afford -- things will change.

That's how greedy they have gotten...they don't even want to pay off the top 20%...

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's upsetting to know there's someone out there that considers this a cogent rebuttal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's what all Communists have in common.

Jealousy.

And you have the nerve to attempt to justify your jealousy as "fighting injustice".

You're just as greedy as the people you oppose.

Communism will not solve your problems. You'll just meet another 'oppressor' because inequality will always exist.

[Ahldagor]

The decline of the Roman empire... The Germanic tribes just cut the throat of an emaciated body.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jealousy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And its gonna go down like I said. When its the educated upper middle class that starts losing all their jobs and gets huge pay cuts and expense hikes they can't afford -- things will change.

That's how greedy they have gotten...they don't even want to pay off the top 20%...

Mandatory stock options can't come fast enough.

if the corporation is going to act in the best interest of the shareholder, then the employees need to be shareholders to even the playing field.

anything else is simply unfair. its not about socialism so much as common sense.


PROBLEM -

- Corp serves shareholder interests.

- Shareholder interests damage the livelihoods of employees. This is not disputable.

SOLUTION - Make employee shareholder.


Employee now directly benefits from all "cost-cutting" decisions the CEO makes. Problem solved. Corporate greed checked without needing to level taxes against the corporation in order to pay out hidden social costs/healthcare/Medicaid.

Its a capitalist solution.

[Wonkie]

anyway that's three words, this has been Vocabulary with Poke, have a blessed day

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's what all Communists have in common.

Jealousy.

And you have the nerve to attempt to justify your jealousy as "fighting injustice".

You're just as greedy as the people you oppose.

Communism will not solve your problems. You'll just meet another 'oppressor' because inequality will always exist.

If we were just as greedy,

We would take everything we could get from anyone we could and claim (wrongly) everyone else would do the same if they could.

Violence will exist. That doesn't mean we need to build a thunderdome and embrace it.

You have that simplistic JP politics thing going. "Well its all individualism = good and collectivism = bad because the Soviet Union were collectivists ya know." Out.To.Lunch.

Half the country makes under 30k a year and the majority live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford a 2000 dollar emergency. And your argument is "don't be jealous?" Good luck in 2020. Hopefully Trump's got some good race-bait for that one.