Comparing Shaman and Druid epics...

ScaringChildren · #1 10-09-2018, 05:28 PM

So I hear about the Shaman epic allowing a caster to essentially solo multiple blue mobs at once.

Cool, sounds great.

But the Druid epic also has a clicky snare/dot that does more damage.

Wouldn't they be able to do the same? What's the difference?

zodium · #2 10-09-2018, 06:06 PM

Druids have charm, so they don't need to root rot for exp.

Druid epic is mainly good for the -100 MR snare, when you need to snare a high level or MR mob, or for farming green trash.

ScaringChildren · #3 10-09-2018, 06:08 PM

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Druids have charm, so they don't need to root rot for exp.

Druid epic is mainly good for the -100 MR snare, when you need to snare a high level or MR mob, or for farming green trash.

Fair enough.

Can they root rot at the same potential as epic shamans though?

zodium · #4 10-09-2018, 06:23 PM

Using just epic? Yes. In practice shamans could root rot for exp better, due to Canni letting them cast more proper spell DoTs than an equivalent druid. A druid could also use clicky Drones of Doom on top of epic, but I think a canni shaman would still sustainably root rot better.

shwally · #5 10-09-2018, 06:38 PM

Shammy can also slow the mobs. Makes it safer pulling 5-6 mobs to rot. If you have multiple break it's a lot easier to handle when they are slowed.

Bummey · #6 10-09-2018, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I hear about the Shaman epic allowing a caster to essentially solo multiple blue mobs at once.

Cool, sounds great.

But the Druid epic also has a clicky snare/dot that does more damage.

Wouldn't they be able to do the same? What's the difference?

Druid epic may do more total, but shaman epic does it in half the time. In the time it takes druid epic to tick through all its damage the shaman epic can do its damage twice over.

Druid epic 1650 damage over 3 minutes
Shaman epic 1425 damage over 1.5 minutes -- 2850 over 3 minutes

Shamans can theoretically lock down 12 mobs and epic them down, but it takes a lot of time. It's a good amount of free damage, but it's not a ton of damage.

ScaringChildren · #7 10-09-2018, 06:47 PM

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Druid epic may do more total, but shaman epic does it in half the time. In the time it takes druid epic to tick through all its damage the shaman epic can do its damage twice over.

Druid epic 1650 damage over 3 minutes
Shaman epic 1425 damage over 1.5 minutes -- 2850 over 3 minutes

Oh I didn't notice this. Thanks

Tortok · #8 10-10-2018, 02:16 AM

Imho slowing or cast-dotting mobs makes root rotting ineffecient once you got epic.
The good thing on canni is you'll never run out of mana (regrowth+troll) for roots, so you can root rot without any med breakes. That makes it so efficient.

Swish2 · #9 10-10-2018, 03:00 AM

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Shamans can theoretically lock down 12 mobs and epic them down, but it takes a lot of time. It's a good amount of free damage, but it's not a ton of damage.

Not sure if it was 12 but definitely seen a shaman doing this in the middle of KC (under captain), some very salty pullers it has to be said [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tortok · #10 10-10-2018, 04:39 AM

12 is unrealistic, you need to pull, you have root breaks - you will get behind in the long run. Maybe you can do 12 lvl10 mobs but no exp giving ones except you play lottery.

Largest amount of blue mobs I kept under control was 8, don't know if 9 or 10 would be possible but 8 is already very stressfull indoors. Outdoors with more open space might make it easier....