AG, Riot, Freedom raid suspended indefinitely

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean... everyone has just as much a right to play this game as anyone else. Freedom formed because Riot leadership decided to play god and determine who can and can’t raid on P99. Wether you like someone or not isn’t relevant, no one here owns this server besides Rogean and Nilbog and outcasting or turning your back on people who want to be apart of the raid scene was a bad call. Freedom never would have formed if Riot leadership didn’t start kicking people and being the gatekeeper of 90% of raid content week after week. Rather not get into it more than that but Riot had basically free reign for a year and the only competition was internal and Arcler/Unicity decided to deal with it in a poor way and now you all wind up here. Stop blaming everyone else and realize it’s not someone else’s fault but everyone’s fault who has “power” in these top raiding guilds who decided to tell other people they can’t see the large majority of the raid content because they feel like it.

Everyone does have a right to play, you're right. Unless you are flagrantly breaking the rules and get banned, this is true. Though that doesn't mean you're entitled to join every circle of players. Riot had every right to turn away Detox. Just like AG had every right to turn away Faumeni when they did over things they had done in the past. Or people like Bvmmy or Bladefrenzy for making questionable calls, stealing, or trying to loot council things to themselves or just berating your raid force unnecessarily. Your reputation stays with you, whether you like it or not. Only other option is to reroll and stay silent in coms.

[Bellringer]

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[Caball]

Basically if you weren’t in Riot, you weren’t going to see the large majority of raid content. Riot has every right to decide who can and cannot be in their guild (or atleast the 7ish officers who control a guild full of 600 people) People not in Riot want to see that same raid content as well tho, and they should be able to have the option to see that content even if Riot turns their back or rejects them. You all are in this situation because you couldn’t come to any sort of agreement and each guild thinks they deserve more and more. Fact is there just isn’t t enough raid mobs/they don’t spawn often enough to satisfy the lust for these high end pixels and with a top heavy population on one server, no silo toon is going to be ideal. Wish I had an answer to fix this shit show but the reality is there are too many people trying to raid too little of content and this game was never designed for this

[arsenalpow]

“Right to play” is pretty loaded. Everyone has the right to log into the server but the end game is dictated by the staff and the groups willing to be the most extreme to capture pixels. If you don’t like it then vote with your feet. Plenty of guilds have already learned this lesson.

[Caball]

There are so many “most extreme” people acting so toxic towards eachother that the staff finally said enough is enough they do not want to babysit hundreds of 40ish year old nerds on a god damn free to play server run by volunteers lol. You couldn’t pay me enough to take on the job these poor GMs have, and they aren’t even allowed to be paid! Regardless of who you feel is right or wrong or who deserves what, these leaders will either come to a solution or never see another raid pixel again. Which I’m totally fine with since most of these people should have quit playing years ago

[tranceminus]

Originally Posted by mumpz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cant wait for bluebs to not ever come to resolution and kwsm to become the best guild on the server

kwsm is already the best guild on the server.

[gkmarino]

That fresh sock smell

[AenorVZ]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GMs are really doing you guys a favor.

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No doubt that Detoxx is not liked by many in the high end raid scene, however, IMO it is more so that with the formation of Riot and the mass zerg / overwhelming machine they made, everyone else was forced to do crazy shit in tandem with them in order to stay relevant, thus the FRAG alliance.

It was an escalation of an arms race that brings us here today. Riot being allowed to go almost full TMO for so long made people insane. They needed some in game anti-trust litigation to break them and their monopoly up and so here we are.

Eh, there would be no Riot without AM monopolizing raid content before that.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh, there would be no Riot without AM monopolizing raid content before that.

Truth.