Post here every time you are disappointed by no Red 2.0 news

[filthyphil]

Originally Posted by Flexin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Teams is an awful ruleset in 2021 without customization, just bring back a classic red and maybe we discuss if it goes beyond Kunark later down the line.

No teams = everyone joining 1 guild to drop raid targets while avoiding PvP(besides their twinks in unrest) until they are level 60 and raid geared then getting bored because they have nobody to use their pixels on. (Where the servers at now)

Teams = real reasons to lock down content and zones in order to enable the growth of your team and block the progression of the other team.

There is some racial/class imbalance within the teams ruleset of course, but thats just EQ PvP in general... the game was clearly not designed around PvP or you wouldn't need a bag full of clickables to compete.

But restarting red with the same ruleset will give us the same results, a dead server. IMO.

[watbab]

all this snow and shit

still no red 2.0 to play on

[Gustoo]

THis thread is all about disappointment not the merits of teams or not teams.

If classic server, rallos zek actual ruleset is the obvious best choice.

If P99 server, custom 2 teams west vs east no PVP engagement level limit is the best choice (to try for fun)

Other classic option is true discord server replica which is short lived teams permadeath hardcore mode.

Make a new thread to discuss merits we gotta focus on the disappointment here.

[Gynecologist]

Not up yet?

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by filthyphil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No teams = everyone joining 1 guild to drop raid targets while avoiding PvP(besides their twinks in unrest) until they are level 60 and raid geared then getting bored because they have nobody to use their pixels on. (Where the servers at now)

Teams = real reasons to lock down content and zones in order to enable the growth of your team and block the progression of the other team.

There is some racial/class imbalance within the teams ruleset of course, but thats just EQ PvP in general... the game was clearly not designed around PvP or you wouldn't need a bag full of clickables to compete.

But restarting red with the same ruleset will give us the same results, a dead server. IMO.

Your thought process almost seems to imply that we're going to play on some hugely populated server with multiple raiding guilds on each team, where as realistically each team will have 1 functional guild and said top dog team will just acquire rerolls/recruits the same way the top guild on no teams does. Teams is unbelievably imbalanced with faction and class restrictions.

It's almost like you don't remember that outside of Nihilum playing the server by themselves for a year and a half, that there was always competition whether it was Holocaust/Hokuten/Azrael/Imaginary Friends/Dentists and even TMO briefly.

Red is dead because the game is in Velious, Red initially died because of a nonexistent resist code, when that code was fixed the pop peaked back to 350, release the server in classic with a working resist code + pnp and you'll see 500 people.

[Disease]

Its coming guys. Just wait a little longer. Could always try RoZ LOL

[Gustoo]

Almost any new server is going to have 500 plus pop that’s why it’s important they make smart choices with rules.

Also I’m not a big teams guy but Nilbogs east vs west offers balance that no Live teams server ever had.

[Tassador]

I agree with raclen you get the worse players on blue with too much time on there hand that have no idea how to compete and 50 of them seem to be on red now. For anyone with pvp intentions or skills this shit has been dead since the empire.

[Disease]

Originally Posted by Tassador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with raclen you get the worse players on blue with too much time on there hand that have no idea how to compete and 50 of them seem to be on red now. For anyone with pvp intentions or skills this shit has been dead since the empire.

There was never competition on red. 100 people during primetime, with 1 guild raiding and 70 of the people in that guild. Lol

[crossplay]

If Red 2.0 isn't in the cards (still might be because Rogean has never not delivered on a promise), how can we make VZTZ 4.0 happen to live out our best pixel lives in 2021?