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Old 03-20-2014, 12:56 PM
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Default Warrior Weapon HATE Chart

Please take a look. If you have any comments or questions please post them here. This information was gathered from lots of other posts and websites, thanks to everyone for putting in the effort to figure out some accurate numbers.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwL...it?usp=sharing

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good stuff
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:39 PM
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Where did you get the value for the generic stun proc? I don't think it's 500. I know when Lorean and I did some tests it was showing up around ~400-ish IIRC.

edit: seems you have this for the ropey thing (400) but all other stuns are listed at 500. I think they're all 400-ish.
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Rod of Mourning "Force" 490 or 590 hate? Scorpikis Claw Impaler "Poison" 250, 500, 750 hate? Trochilic's Skean "Clockwork Poison" 650 or 750 hate? Runed Blade "Rune III" 300,400,500 hate?
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Rod of Mourning "Force" 490 or 590 hate? Scorpikis Claw Impaler "Poison" 250, 500, 750 hate? Trochilic's Skean "Clockwork Poison" 650 or 750 hate? Runed Blade "Rune III" 300,400,500 hate?
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750 (this seems abnormally high for this weapon.. no one uses these to tank and I think that's for a reason)
assuming "spinstun" is 400 hate like stun, 650
no clue on rune III (edit: alls says 2 hate/dmg absorb amount) -> 460

These should all really be tested, though.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:45 AM
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My previous testing has shown mixed results. Plan on trying to go a little bit more in-depth this weekend though. If anyone else has any solid testing evidence other than from Sakuragi's guide lemme know.
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:13 PM
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Definitely odd that a 400pp Scorpikis claw would outperform a 40k RMoY for overall threat generation, even with a much inferior ratio. It seems plausible though, given how much threat the poison procs from the BotBDE and Trochilic's Skean generate. Apparently if you really want to piss off a mob, just poison it. I mean, if this data is accurate then a 400pp poison proccing 8/25 weapon is just a hair under the threat generated by the 14/24 epic, which is valued at what, 500k? Pretty nuts.

Has any actually used dual Scorpikis Claws to test this?
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:30 PM
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Btw where are you getting the hate levels for the procs?

Edit: I get where the raw hate of the war epic comes from, and I also get where the averaged stun amount comes from, but where does the poison hate generation calculation come from?
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:23 PM
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You're assuming that all those weapons proc twice per minute?

What is the basis for that assumption that different weapons all have the same proc rate?
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You're assuming that all those weapons proc twice per minute?

What is the basis for that assumption that different weapons all have the same proc rate?
A recent patch eliminated proc mods. All proc rates now share the same standard.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=135889
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