When did Everquest start to really decline in quality of experience?

[Izmael]

Did I mention the absurd removal of all legacy items? Not that they disappeared, they were just stripped of their mystical, and mythical legacy status. You can now purchase them for plat from a merchant.

That's right, walk up to a merchant and buy a manastone or a CoS.
I understand that you can also win them in the casino plat sink.

Either way, legacy items are a big part of what made EQ good, and P99 Green is there to remind us of that every day. If not for the legacy items, I'm not even sure Green would have triple-digit pop.

[Jimjam]

Legacy items were legacy items as they were mistakes. Fresh eq is better without them, just my opinion.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I mention the absurd removal of all legacy items? Not that they disappeared, they were just stripped of their mystical, and mythical legacy status. You can now purchase them for plat from a merchant.

That's right, walk up to a merchant and buy a manastone or a CoS.
I understand that you can also win them in the casino plat sink.

Either way, legacy items are a big part of what made EQ good, and P99 Green is there to remind us of that every day. If not for the legacy items, I'm not even sure Green would have triple-digit pop.

They also just plain aren't special anymore on live. Darkelf mask? There are plenty of in-game illusions you can get for free or by playing the in-game card game. Fungi Stick? Your worn regen not only will beat it, but you'll get clickies that out-regen it, and with OOC regen who cares anyways. Manastone is SUPREMELY less useful with OOC regen and classic content being trivial anyways. CoS instant-click invis literally became an AA ability. And obviously the nerfed weapons are no longer unique.

[jolanar]

TLDR:

EQ declined when I personally quit. Everything before I quit was perfection and everything after was irredeemable garbage.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR:

EQ declined when I personally quit. Everything before I quit was perfection and everything after was irredeemable garbage.

Quit right before Velious launched, never set foot in any of its zones until they were released on blue. SoL was the only other expansion I played, albeit briefly, and even then only while leveling in old world zones which were more or less abandoned. Digging through some of the later content online, certain aspects seem in-line with the original vision but there's a lot of fat and gristle to cut away for any of that to be palatable imo.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=10342
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=10385

[Ennewi]

Neither of the two would look entirely out of place in old world zones and their loot tables don't appear to contain any overpowered or game-breaking items, excluding focuses and mods. But going through the various expansions and attempting to separate the wheat from the chaff would be a lengthy undertaking, just to highlight what coulda shoulda been.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legacy items were legacy items as they were mistakes. Fresh eq is better without them, just my opinion.

Another example of mistakes that people find interesting.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR:

EQ declined when I personally quit. Everything before I quit was perfection and everything after was irredeemable garbage.

Moon Cat says "Did you quit because EQ became irredeemable garbage?"

[branamil]

Classic was the peak, everything after ruined it more

[OuterChimp]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR:

EQ declined when I personally quit. Everything before I quit was perfection and everything after was irredeemable garbage.

Always remember, the Old Corps ended the day before you came in. Just the way it is.