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Old 09-21-2019, 10:54 AM
Dolalin Dolalin is offline
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Default Bard NPCs giving mail quests shouldn't be in game until May 1999 patch era

Not sure if this is configured this way for Green already, but bard mail quest NPCs weren't in game at launch. First mention I see of them is here:

https://groups.yahoo.com/api/v1/grou...3?guccounter=1

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Friday, May 14, 1999 10:32:48 AM

I was inside HighHold Keep, and there's a new bard out front, a female in leather. She asks you to deliver some mail to Qeynos or Freeport. It's not Bard's only, but it does
affect faction with the League of Antonican Bards and their corresponding factions.

--Shulzari
Poswardd of E'ci
http://www.soerbaird.com
(You can get the dates for these emails by converting the unix timestamp in the json.)

Edit: Next reply is a bit more verbose so including that too.

https://groups.yahoo.com/api/v1/grou...0?guccounter=1

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Actually it's more then that. It seems we bards have become
the "pony express" of norrath. Kelethin, Freeport, HighHold Keep,
and Qeynos have become the mail stops. There may be more but those were
the only ones I undertook last night. There did seem to be trouble with
the Feeport mail stop. I believe there are also two new quests in
Qeynos but I could be mistaken and merely never triggered them before.

Adon singer of the Glories of Veeshan
Bard of Povar
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:10 PM
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Hah you're messing up everyone's plans to race to 50, I love it (not sarcastic)
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:20 AM
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The struggle 1-10 will be real without these
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:22 PM
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I love this! More please =D

How can others help? My memory from launch is very fuzzy as I was quite young at the time.

Any typically targeted quest NPCs that were added later on? Hermit from Rathe? Viability of guards in freeport, kelethin, felwithe?
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:48 PM
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I was going through the mail quests to verify they have proper rules in place.

These are the names/routes I found:

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lyra lyrestringer akanon -> Jakum Webdancer gfaydark
siltria marwind butcher -> jakum webdancer gfaydark
ticar lorestring erudnext -> Tralyn Marsinger qeynos
Drizda Tunesinger feerrott -> Felisity Starbright freportn
Tacar Tissleplay felwithea -> jakum webdancer gfaydark
ton twostring freportn -> lislia goldtune highkeep
ton twostring freportn -> idia gfaydark
Marton Stringsinger halas -> Tralyn Marsinger qeynos
Lislia Goldtune highkeep -> Ton Twostring freportn
Lislia Goldtune highkeep -> eve marsinger qeynos
As far as I know, none of these npcs should spawn prior to May 1999.

Did I miss any? Did any of these npcs exist prior to the mail quest and should be left alone?

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How can others help? My memory from launch is very fuzzy as I was quite young at the time.

Any typically targeted quest NPCs that were added later on? Hermit from Rathe? Viability of guards in freeport, kelethin, felwithe?
Really, any researching and collaborative effort would help. I will probably create a thread where we can consolidate what may be lacking era rules. The system we use now wasn't implemented until Kunark development started, so undoubtedly something will be missed.

For example, I was recently going through the deity-specific/soltemple quests and ended up with several questions/notes to myself like this:

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should zombie skin drop before apr2000?
should infected rat livers drop before apr2000?
should giant snake fang drop before apr2000? (yes, evidence of march 2000)
should kerran doll drop before apr2000?
should shin gauntlets drop before oct1999?
should black silk gloves drop before oct1999?
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:57 PM
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I'm off to Malaga on a business trip but I'll see if I can double check that tomorrow Nilbog.
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:39 PM
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I was going through the mail quests to verify they have proper rules in place.

These are the names/routes I found:

Did I miss any? Did any of these npcs exist prior to the mail quest and should be left alone?
More Bard Mail NPCs, mostly from Going Postal that were not on your list:

 

Nektulos to Freeport
Travis Two Tone Nektulos Forest, by EC zoneline (-2231, -306) Felisity Starbright North Freeport, Marsheart's Chords (-108, 550);
Freeport to Qeynos
Ton Twostring North Freeport, Marsheart's Chords (-76, 580) Eve Marsinger South Qeynos, outside bard guild (527, -123);
Kaladim to Kelethin
Kilam Oresinger South Kaladim, outside Pub Kal (104, 222) Jakum Webdancer Greater Faydark/Kelethin, Songweavers guild hall (-229, 265);
Kelethin to Freeport
Idia Greater Faydark/Kelethin, outside Songweavers guild hall (-213, 265) Felisity Starbright North Freeport, Marsheart's Chords (-108, 550);
Innothule to Freeport
Dark Deathsinger Innothule Swamp, middle of the south wall (-2592, 172) Felisity Starbright North Freeport, Marsheart's Chords (-108, 550)
Innothule to Qeynos
Dark Deathsinger Innothule Swamp, middle of the south wall (-2592, 172) Eve Marsinger South Qeynos, outside bard guild (527, -123)
Rivervale to Freeport
Silna Songsmith Rivervale, near Weary Foot Rest (149, -149) Felisity Starbright North Freeport, Marsheart's Chords (-108, 550)
Surefall Glade to Qeynos
Sivina Lutewhisper Surefall Glade, in Ranger guild (119, -64) Tralyn Marsinger South Qeynos, outside bard guild (520, -123)
West Karana to Qeynos
Mistrana Two Notes West Karana, #13 on map (-3668, -2001) Tralyn Marsinger South Qeynos, outside bard guild (520, -123)


Maybe more, gonna dig deeper than the wiki to check, wayback on everlore has some good info from Dec 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/200201060...d=4585&mode=35.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:53 AM
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None of these level 25 bard mail quest NPCs are associated with any other quests. The emails I've seen from eqbards shows they were new NPCs.

I think if you take the list from the Going Postal wiki link above Nilbog and disable all those NPCs you should be good.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:53 PM
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Fixed, pending update
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