Miscellaneous: retroactively nerfed items

[nilbog]

I need a consolidated list of items which have been retroactively changed, or will be retroactively changed.

Note: This is for items which have their existing stats changed, not ones replaced or removed altogether.

I also need a rough estimate/time where these items need to change. If multiple changes happened within a single month according to patch history, we will likely include all of those changes into one. For example, the following items have been completed and associated with a standout occurance on the time line.

Italicized = complete.

Robe of Living Fungus - Hole
Deepwater Helm - Epics
Wurmslayer - Epics
Burning Rapier - Kunark
Barbed Scale Whip - Epics
Mosscovered Twig - Epics
Terror Forged Mask - Kunark
Efreeti Standard - Epics
Ragebringer - 2 weeks after Epics (October00)
Bixie Sword Blade - Epic Revamps
Incarnadine Breastplate - Epic Revamps
Singing Steel Boots - Epic Revamps
Singing Steel Greaves - Epic Revamps
Gunthak Harpoon - Hole
Imbued Granite Spauldors - November01
Antonican Javelins - July 2001
Donal's Chestplate of Mourning e.1.0 - Velious
Donal's Chestplate of Mourning e.2.0 - Feb2001
Wurmslayer e.2.0 - Feb2001
Quivers haste - May2001

edits/reports from this thread (To Do List):




Cleric Velious BPs e.1.0 - 03/06/2001
Cleric Velious BPs e.2.0 - 03/14/2001





More please. If you know the date, or a link to it, include it.

[Sundawg]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ht=bixie+sword

[koros]

A lot of Velious weapons were upgraded... but not sure if you guys are/want to go through the trouble of changing them per timeline, many were changed fairly quickly after ToV got conquered.

*I'm mentioning upgraded in addition to nerfed because you listed Burning Rapier, which had its stats upped.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of Velious weapons were upgraded... but not sure if you guys are/want to go through the trouble of changing them per timeline, many were changed fairly quickly after ToV got conquered.

*I'm mentioning upgraded in addition to nerfed because you listed Burning Rapier, which had its stats upped.

Yep. I'm still interested.

[Dentalplan]

Donal's Chestplate. Complete heal click first nerfed to 30s cast time and then later given some kind of cooldown effect as well.

[koros]

Ok, I'll start to piece together a list while it's slow at work today of everything I can think of. Some of it will require SS verification that I'll get later or someone can look up...

Adding stuff as I go, sorry if it's not pretty:

-Mistwalker gets proc nerfed
-Willsapper gets nerfed from 50% haste to 35% haste
-Reaver gets upped from 35/45 to 40/40
-Mrylokar's Dagger get's nerfed to 12/16 then back to 15/19, proc nerfed from 100 lifetap to 90 over 3 ticks
-Cloak of Venom gets upgraded -
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images/tov/cloakvenom.jpg
-Axe of the Kromzek kings get upgraded - http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images...romzek_axe.jpg
-Incardine BP should currently be clickable by anyone, gets nerfed in Velious to can equip
-Robe of the Spring shouldn't be dropping - only a handful ever dropped on live before it was taken out.
-Deepwater helm should be nerfed to 10 sec cast time
-Bunch of things here were upgraded:

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/templa...ndex_may_oct01

-Frostreaver gets upgraded from 36/46
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The axe have been upgraded to 42 dmg 43 delay"

More to come...

[Ele]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Incardine BP should currently be clickable by anyone, gets nerfed in Velious to can equip

Should be clickable from inventory and usable by all.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...ht=incarnadine

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...ht=incarnadine

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...ht=incarnadine

Incarnadine Breastplate should be usable from inventory, as currently implemented it must be worn to activate the effect.

Wearing it was made a requirement in the March 27, 2001 patch, post-Velious.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010327.html

Quote:
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March 27, 2001 2:00 am
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*Item Changes*
The Incarnadine Breastplate must now be worn to activate.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Robe of the Spring shouldn't be dropping - only a handful ever dropped on live before it was taken out.
.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=65686

[koros]

There's apparently not a lot of evidence about this, because only a few of the first VP guilds ever got any.

Check the item on alla, it was obviously posted years later as pretty much no comments or information exists about it. I'm certain it didn't drop:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=46890

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Dentalplan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Donal's Chestplate. Complete heal click first nerfed to 30s cast time and then later given some kind of cooldown effect as well.

Change 1: 20 seconds -> 30 seconds
Donal's BP is 20 seconds from Kunark -> Velious +14 days.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1960

The above thread discusses the patch message of December 19, and people confirmed the casting time was increased to 30 seconds.

December 19th, 3:00am
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*Patch Day*

Today's patch primarily consists of tuning of Velious zones as well as content and other additions. In addition, the following changes have been implemented on the Live servers:

- High-end items that have a activatable (right-click) healing effect have in several cases had their casting times increased.
These threads from the day after the December 19, 2000, patch also confirm it was a 20 second casting time from Kunark -> Velious + 14 days.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1972
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2018

Change 2: 30 seconds and 7.5 min 1hp/tick buff preventing recast

The second change occurred about 11 weeks after Velious released. Donal's BP = 30 second cast time with the effect "Complete Heal" having a component buff that lasts 7.5 minutes, non-removable, non-dispellable, 1hp/tick preventing other Donal's BP clicks from landing as long as the buff is in place.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...donal%27s+nerf

Donal's Breastplate has an effect called "Complete Heal" (not our level 39 spell). Lucy says that the effect is "Complete Heal (over time)".

*What* is a complete heal over time?

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That spell is the result of the big nerf on Donal's BP. It was a regular CH before it was nerfed. People were taking down uber mobs of the time with 2 Donal's clerics and a warrior, so they made it into a 30-sec cast time and gave it a buff icon. You can only land the BP CH on a specific individual once every 10 mins or so.

It *was* overly powerful and deserved the nerf, but as per usual, it was nerfed into oblivion. It's not useful at all really anymore. Free CHs after a wipeout, I guess... but even that is pretty useless with a 30 sec cast time. Hell, with a bard playing mana regen, I regen enough for a CH in 30 secs anyway.

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I didn't know about the buff icon thing that doesn't let you cast Donal's more than once every 7.5 minutes on someone. Talk about an over-nerf. I could see one or the other, but both? The 30 second cast tme alone would make me only use it on CR's or between pulls or something. Adding a 7.5 minute "you can't do that again" feature makes the 30 second cast time a slap in the face. How dare you use that clicky!

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February 21, 2001 3:00 am
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--- Donal's Breastplate can now only be used on any individual target
once every 7.5 minutes. This addresses some of the balance issues that
became apparent given the existence of a mana-free complete heal.

Change 3: Celestial Healing/Velious Cleric BPs -> Celestial Healing Casting time increased from 24 seconds to 1 minute

An additional 2 weeks after the mega Donal's BP nerf, the Velious Cleric BPs (Thurg/Kael/SS/PoG) get nerfed by increasing the casting time from 24 seconds to 1 minute.

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March 6, 2001 3:00 am
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-- The casting time for four cleric brestplates sporting the "Celestial
Healing" effect has been increased to one minute. We understand that
this severely limits the use of that effect and we are currently
discussing alternate effects to place on those items in the next patch.
We did, however, need to address the 300pt per tick regen that could be
placed and kept on the group tank. When we've decided on the new
affect, it will be applied to those items retroactively.

Change 4: Celestial Healing/Velious Cleric BPs -> Celestial Healing changed to Mark of Karn

A week later the Velious Cleric BPs are all nerfed from Celestial Healing to Mark of Karn. Mark of Karn is also upgraded to heal more per a hit.

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March 14, 2001 3:00 am
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- The spell, Mark of Karn, has been enhanced to heal more per hit.
- The effect on the Celestial Elixir Breastplates has been changed to
the enhanced Mark of Karn. The casting time on these items has also
been changed to 9 seconds.