Melee Worthlessness - The Biggest Balance Problem There Is

[bubur]

just divide all mob damage by 4

melee good, charm bad

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just divide all mob damage by 4

melee good, charm bad

This is almost exactly what some other solo-oriented emu servers do.

[Keza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate to say that I think wow fixed melee by taking disciplines and expanding them to basically be "melee spell lines" and using stamina instead of mana to cast them.

Pretty sure DAoC did that first though. WoW's claim to fame is trivializing content.

OP looks like a troll I'm guessing. Talking about how hard the game is, about how everyone likes it that way - yet saying casters who trivialize much of the game aren't OP, and that melee should be just as strong.

Right.

[Videri]

So, OP, any response to the thread so far? (Ignoring the haters, of course.)

[Baler]

If every hybrid re-rolled rogue there would be no problem.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10 ac matters more than 450hp.

um...no

[Woodrow]

This actually reminds me of an uproar back in the day on the official EQ forums in classic when people realized a lvl 50 necro pet could solo a lvl 50 warrior. People started crunching the numbers and realized many stats didnt actually do what they were supposed to do and were worthless.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Saisu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An Ogre warrior that went full stamina at creation would be at 157. The worst you can be is a Dark Elf or Woof Elf with a measly base of 75 (maybe you put all points into charisma).

At level 60 those 82 stat points would equal 492 HP, which is your worst case scenario.

For an Ogre to have 1,000 extra HP over a Wood Elf, they'd need to start with 241 stamina.
For an Ogre to have 2,000 extra HP over a Wood Elf, they'd need to start with 408 stamina.

That would be compared to a hybrid. FYI

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by NPC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be compared to a hybrid. FYI

I’m confused. Are you saying a 150 stam ogre war will have a four figure number more hp than a 75sta wood elf ranger at 60?

[Saisu]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m confused. Are you saying a 150 stam ogre war will have a four figure number more hp than a 75sta wood elf ranger at 60?

Plugged the numbers into Magelo, and that does seem to be the case.
150 Stamina Ogre Warrior at 60 = 2638 HP
75 Stamina Wood Elf Ranger at 60 = 1580 HP

1,058 HP difference.