What do mages really have going for them?

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't blue in velious. I'm up for parsing my level 49 pet and nuking vs monks and rogues.

25 point damage shield to throw on the tank too.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't blue in velious. I'm up for parsing my level 49 pet and nuking vs monks and rogues.

Just make sure you parse for an extended period of time over many mobs.

Pretty clear on ONE mob mage will destroy a melee on parse.

On two? Mage, theyre not OOM yet.

Three? Mage, still not OOM.

Four... or more? Game over, this is why rogues are the highest DPS.

Sustained DPS > Burst DPS.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sustained DPS > Burst DPS.

If you have sustained pulls.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have sustained pulls.

Why Rogue’s and Monk’s in raids easily outparse Mages.

I have no problem with Mages, I just don’t like this false notion perpetuated that they’re leagues above other DPS in damage output. It’s simply not true.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just make sure you parse for an extended period of time over many mobs.

Pretty clear on ONE mob mage will destroy a melee on parse.

On two? Mage, theyre not OOM yet.

Three? Mage, still not OOM.

Four... or more? Game over, this is why rogues are the highest DPS.

Sustained DPS > Burst DPS.

obviously it isnt this simple lol

[Balimon]

I think people are saying that mages can out parse rogues and monks at level 50 with this level of gear.

[Siege]

Originally Posted by Smellybuttface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why Rogue’s and Monk’s in raids easily outparse Mages.

I have no problem with Mages, I just don’t like this false notion perpetuated that they’re leagues above other DPS in damage output. It’s simply not true.

It depends on level and gear. In the early levels on a fresh server, mages spanks melee classes hard. Their pets are ridiculous compared to an ungeared melee class and their nukes are almost on par with wiz nukes. That isn't necessarily the case now that Green is mature enough to have low-level twinks and decently geared mid-level characters.

[Kalamurv]

rogue without 10-12 dmg poker with decent delay really isn't gonna be putting out a ton of dps, rogues don't really shine until epic with its 15 dmg and 40 attack

[Vexenu]

Classic Rogue weapons are garbage. The average level 50 Mage with a focused, buffed and hasted level 49 pet, a 25 point DS and nukes is easily outdamaging the average level 50 Rogue. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the average level 50 Monk is outdamaging the average level 50 Rogue, either. I'd love to see parses comparing the three.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic Rogue weapons are garbage. The average level 50 Mage with a focused, buffed and hasted level 49 pet, a 25 point DS and nukes is easily outdamaging the average level 50 Rogue. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the average level 50 Monk is outdamaging the average level 50 Rogue, either. I'd love to see parses comparing the three.

Not counting dragon loot items, I wouldn't doubt any SK/pal/war right now out damages any monk or rogue with mith 2 hd. There is only one really good rogue weapon in this time period and it's dragon loot and there are no good monk weapons.