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PoS items upgrade timeline
Hi.
A search shows that there's been some debate on these forums about when PoS items were upgraded to their final form (for example, Wu's Tranquil Fist gets upgraded to Wu's Fist of Mastery). In the original timeline, the upgrade of PoS items happened on July 19, 2000, as per the patch notes on that day: "Increased stats on many Plane of Sky items." Source: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000719.html To put that in perspective, that is a few weeks before the non-Trakanon dragons (Severilous, Talendor, Gorenaire, etc.) were introduced in Kunark, as per the following patch notes dated August 9, 2020: "Rumor has it that some new dragons have been spotted in Kunark." Source: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000809.html In terms of the Green timeline, that would mean that PoS items should see an upgrade on the first Friday of February 2021. Additional Kunark dragons should be introduced on the first Friday of March 2021. I am bringing this up now because I don't know if these issues require a patch, and patches presumably take a while to implement. Thank you for your attention. | ||
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I thought we came up with March 2001, a few months into Velious when the other planes got re-vamped when we did this exercise 7 years ago:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=114093
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I am quoting directly from the patch notes. The OP from the thread from 7 years ago admits he does not have that and is relying on secondary sources. Given the complexity of Sky back in 99, I assume the vast majority of guilds did not clear it consistently (if at all) until well after Kunark, and any secondary source information would likely reflect the delay in knowledge.
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I'm not sure what the timeline actually is on green, but if it's based on the allakhazam comments linked in https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=114093 then I think it's worth revisiting. As meathook points out, sky was not something that many guilds raided often, let alone cleared completely.
From that thread, they try to use stuff like this as evidence: Quote:
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I couldn't find any mention of sky items being changed in April 2001, but as meathook mentioned, they were explicitly mentioned as having their stats upgraded in the July 2000 patch.
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From 7/31/00 referencing the patch meathook posted, so at least some things were upgraded. | |||
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The original quest reward for the Monk Test of Fists is Wu's Tranquil Fist. According to this post on Oct 18 2000, well after the alleged Jul 19 2000 patch mentioned above, a GM on Drinal awarded the Wu's Tranquil Fist to Brokenarra LifeFist as part of a GM reimbursement for quest turn-in items that were eaten. If the Sky quests upgrades had gone in on Jul 19 2000, the GM would have awarded the upgraded item, the Wu's Fist of Mastery.
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...97190902021684 A post from Jun 12 2001 (which supports the March/April 2001 upgrade date) then mentions that the fists were updated: https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...99236379585306 The patch notes from March 27, 2001 have this tidbit at the end which further supports they included the "new" Sky quests in this patch: Quote:
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I don't have a ton to add on this at the moment, but I did stumble across this great zone guide to Sky mentioned in the newsgroups as of June 2001, captured on August 2001. It may be a fair bit older than that.
Has a lot of info so you could use it to establish 'things must have been this way as of August 2001 at least'. http://web.archive.org/web/200108141...rdhong/sky.htm It does not have the upgraded monk fist. But that probably just means it was never updated - none of the later captures years later have it either. | ||
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