What do mages really have going for them?

[Kirdan]

Originally Posted by Kalamurv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...their nukes while slightly behind wiz seem to be more consistent than wizzys imo, less full blown resists on mage nukes

uh, no, it's the opposite

[Kohedron]

Well I literally had to give up playing my rogue because min-maxers (over 95% of the server) only wants pet DPS classes in their groups, so there's that.

[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by Kohedron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I literally had to give up playing my rogue because min-maxers (over 95% of the server) only wants pet DPS classes in their groups, so there's that.

I know wizards who regularly get groups, and I've had 2+ hybrid tanks in my alt SKs group (and I am a min-maxxer; sometimes you just have to go with the flow though.)

Maybe it's you.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Polycaster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know wizards who regularly get groups, and I've had 2+ hybrid tanks in my alt SKs group (and I am a min-maxxer; sometimes you just have to go with the flow though.)

Maybe it's you.

Yeah I haven't had any problems on a Rogue. I highly doubt that commenter has run into groups with open spots that said "no thanks we'll wait until a pet DPS class comes along." More likely that commenter is just seeing full groups that have multiple pet DPS classes in them, which is not the same as saying people are passing up on a Rogue for those classes.

If there are in fact instances where there is like one open spot left and the commenter is standing there and being passed up right then for a pet DPS class, I'd imagine a decent amount of the reason is the other abilities those classes have and not just their pet since it's not as though Rogues are bad melee DPS.

[Polycaster]

I agree that a lot of it is attributing to min-max malice what could best be explained by groups being full or needing a specialist to work (heal/ tank). I've been in a lot of groups that took whoever was nearest when a spot opened, if no specialist was needed. I've had strangers send me tells on my druid to come heal, and druids are generally considered 3rd place out of 3 for healers. 5 AM demographics ftw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Kohedron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I literally had to give up playing my rogue because min-maxers (over 95% of the server) only wants pet DPS classes in their groups, so there's that.

well, if a group is already skewed toward using pets, adding any melee based characters becomes a bad idea and drain of efficiency. Not so much min-max but square peg/round hole.

[Kalamurv]

Ive seen some amazing druids easily out heal clerics....there are far to many times in this game where people forget to place skill above all else. I'll take a skilled player over a shitty one even if it means I have to work 3 x harder to make it work

[Hiten]

Originally Posted by Kalamurv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive seen some amazing druids easily out heal clerics....there are far to many times in this game where people forget to place skill above all else. I'll take a skilled player over a shitty one even if it means I have to work 3 x harder to make it work

Eh. You mean like if cleric was afk? Can’t see how a druid would out heal a cleric otherwise.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Hiten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh. You mean like if cleric was afk? Can’t see how a druid would out heal a cleric otherwise.

Regen/chloro and lesser heals are no joke in many group comps and levels. That ch can heal for 10k or whatever doesn't mean shit if your tank is a 1400 hp bard or ranger, or your group is all casters, or you want the war to stay enraged, etc. And even if you are in a group that seems like it needs a cleric, a slacker who doesn't want to spend a dot to symbol the chanter or puller, or who isn't quick with a stun or heal on a charm break, will quickly be outperformed by a competent druid.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Kohedron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I literally had to give up playing my rogue because min-maxers (over 95% of the server) only wants pet DPS classes in their groups, so there's that.

Who is spreading this Mage as a top-DPS class over a Rogue? I've rarely seen a Mage outperform a Rogue or a Monk in a DPS parse.