Spells: Enchanter pet has too much HP

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by axisofebola [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They might be

They are:

https://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id2147.png

Originally Posted by axisofebola [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but it doesn't explain the necromancer pets. If the wiki is to be trusted, a level14 necro pet shouldnt come anywhere near 380.

Well the wiki is most likely wrong.

peq database has skel_pet_16 at max 456 hp. It's not p99 but staff can see the real numbers. It's not out of the bounds of reason.

[Dolalin]

Here are all Enchanter pets I found in the sheet.

Within the same spell circle, pets increase by 20hp each level. Each new circle there is an extra boost in the base hp, then it continues to scale by 20hp from there.

It all looks pretty linear/consistent except for two curiosities:

1) Linara Parlone's level 21 pet hp is a few points different from the same level ench pets in northkarana, rathemtn, and lakerathe. Her 20th pet is the same as the others though.

2) The GM pet, Reania Jukle's, breaks the curve a little bit.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by axisofebola [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The data also shows glare lords summoning level 20 pets.

And forsaken revenants summoning level 21.

It looks like this was the case for awhile until it changed:

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...l?id=682#m6382

[axisofebola]

I find interesting if you look at entries 2472-2474 that enchanter pet and shaman pet seem to have the exact same hp scaling. Then just below that same level shaman pet is about 400 points higher.


Hmm I wonder if it's simply the case that the shaman are often getting buffed with altuna + stamina and their data has been mined afterwards instead of when they spawn. Might also explain variations from zone to zone, especially and pets lucky enough to spawn near a cleric and shaman friendly NPC.

The previous example of necro pet in guk and necro pet in befallen for example could be explained by an innerfire buff.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by axisofebola [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find interesting if you look at entries 2472-2474 that enchanter pet and shaman pet seem to have the exact same hp scaling. Then just below that same level shaman pet is about 400 points higher.


Hmm I wonder if it's simply the case that the shaman are often getting buffed with altuna + stamina and their data has been mined afterwards instead of when they spawn.

I think that is EXACTLY what is happening. I just had exactly the same thought after staring at the data for awhile.

Discrepancies are about pets being buffed/debuffed etc.

[Dolalin]

The extra 120hp on Reania Jukle's pet can be explained by Kron here, a level 30 cleric, casting Daring on it.

Here they are on P99. Perfectly within range. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[axisofebola]

I wonder if the visting priestess would be close enough to buff that necro pet in najena? Would also explain that.

[Dolalin]

Maybe.

Here's another very clear example. The revenant earth pets in hate are buffed with Resolution (+250hp), while the glare lord earth pets in fear are not.

I'm going to try to normalize all these for mages and necros too, looks like the data is consistent enough to be useful, just have to be conscious of pets being buffed by other NPCs in the area.

[Dolalin]

Excellent post from the newsgroups. Apparently Cynthia's pet was bugged and on a 17s respawn timer, people were killing it over and over:

Dec 15, 1999

Not sure if who knows this or not, but there is pet that spawns that you can
kill over and over and over again. The respawn time on this pet is roughly
7 seconds. It's level 21-25, doesn't run, has around 500 hp's, and is
currently camped by groups for hours on end, for the above reasons. It's a
level 29 enchanter animation.

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The respawn time is
like 17secs. The zone, while seemingly pretty dangerous, isnt that bad. If
you med IN the gypsy camp, you are safe, as the cyclops' who frequent the
area dont wander over into the camp unless trained. Also, as long as you
make sure you dont hit the pet until it is clear of tents, Cynthia wont
come.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/id9gbkaB1T8J

The level 25 Cynthia's pet in the sheet has 442hp which is in the ballpark.

[Dolalin]

Here are the necro and mage pets I could find in the sheet.

What's very interesting is that there is not a single NPC mage pet in Vanilla everquest higher than level 23. Even the guild master Perkon Malok only had a level 23 pet.

This would explain why glare lord pets were so gimpy.

There was something going on here, which I think goes back to EQ release and mage pets not being in the game any higher than level 24 for a few months.

Just an interesting piece of trivia.

Look at the difference between level 44 and level 49 necro pets though, almost doubles in hp. Invoke Death was a beast.

Edit: here's a OneDrive link to the doc in case you don't like squinting, I added these extracts as extra sheets.

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Av68XbooqaptkgfW...PAsoO?e=l8xkwx

(Usual disclaimer applies: pets that were near other buffing NPCs will have more hp. Most obvious for mobs in the planes. Also, as mentioned, some of these mage pets were fire pets. The rest were earth though I think. I don't think NPCs had water/air pets? Edit2: I'm wrong, Bindlegrob and Findlegrob had air/water pets)