Current Sky Schedule

[Wotsirb401]

Joint raids aren't ideal, but it helps to make the server more friendly, helps with numbers and it helps with 12 guilds are trying to share one zone that has respawn of 8 hours

[Ektar]

word for word logs. not forged or anything I don't roll that way. all spam (you hit whatever for 4 points of damage because you're a sucky paladin etc.) edited out. color coded for convenience and necessary comments inserted.


[Sun Jun 30 21:14:03 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'hey man, Sunday has been our sky day for a bit. Who is leading your raid?'

[Sun Jun 30 21:14:12 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'guess that's me'
What is Ektar thinking? -- damn it there must be a rotation or whatever and now I'm doing something wrong

[Sun Jun 30 21:14:35 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'sorry I just needed to turn in for my epic, didn't realize there was even a rotation or whatever'

[Sun Jun 30 21:14:38 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'ho ho, someone admitting to leadership authority power'

[Sun Jun 30 21:15:13 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'so how many people do you have and what are you planning to do'

[Sun Jun 30 21:15:25 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'we're going to 4 to do fiery avenger'

[Sun Jun 30 21:15:40 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'its just a turnin right?'

[Sun Jun 30 21:15:43 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'just need to kill gorg to get up there'

[Sun Jun 30 21:16:46 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'want to just joint raid then?'

[Sun Jun 30 21:16:56 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'as long as you haven't totally fucked us up on keys'

[Sun Jun 30 21:17:16 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'IO mean as far as 2.. yeah probably'
We killed all azaracks and protector of sky and were on isle 3. There were no isle 2 keys left. (you can of course buy keys from 1 to 2)

[Sun Jun 30 21:17:37 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'hmm'

[Sun Jun 30 21:17:41 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'well i guess we can always drag'

[Sun Jun 30 21:18:21 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'as long as that works out'

[Sun Jun 30 21:18:49 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'its possible to drag to 4'

[Sun Jun 30 21:18:56 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'ok cool'
What is Ektar thinking? -- I've wronged them, but it seems the wronged party will at least be able to pick up after the damage done.

[Sun Jun 30 21:19:28 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'did you kill a trigger?'
I must've gotten distracted here because there's a 2 minute jump and no response. We had not killed a trigger.

[Sun Jun 30 21:21:18 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'what all are you planning to do up here?'

[Sun Jun 30 21:21:22 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'anyway I guess my suggestion is that we port up and clear 5 together'

[Sun Jun 30 21:21:38 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'could maybe do 6 but the bees won't respawn for a while'
What is Ektar thinking? -- Oh, even better. They want to do 5 and higher isles, and we are just stopping at 4. My "refusal" of the joint raid had nothing to do with wanting to take things for myself, but because we had no interest in what was being proposed.

note 3 minute time jump as we discussed things in vent

[Sun Jun 30 21:24:29 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'ok reviewed it with the rest of the guys here'

[Sun Jun 30 21:24:43 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'we just wanna to a keeper cycle then we're gtg'

[Sun Jun 30 21:25:07 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'so like 5 6 etc all you we're not in for a long sky raid'

[Sun Jun 30 21:25:14 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'hmm alright'

next thing I know I am public enemy #1

any future complaints redirect to our associated rnf thread here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=113658

[Splorf22]

Thanks for your kind words Getsome. I went to sleep pretty depressed about the impending destruction of the Sky rotation, the only thing the P1999 community has ever managed to cooperate on, but maybe there is hope for humanity yet. If you can find your own timeslot, great, otherwise (as I offered to Ektar) we can work with you. I'd still like to do our low numbers raids some of the time, but we could either team up and do isle 6+ periodically or maybe give you some nights every so often. Sky every week is actually kind of a lot; we don't mind doing other things occasionally.

I just want to emphasize that we at The A-Team would like to have good relations with everyone. I know that the endgame scene is just horribly overcrowded here and that it's impossible to avoid drama completely, but in general we try not to compete and race and leapfrog and if you give us a chance we are probably willing to work with you. I find raids more fun with 10-15 but I'd much rather join together and zerg something with 40 than rage out in RNF. All we ask is a little respect and cooperation.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sun Jun 30 21:24:43 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'we just wanna to a keeper cycle then we're gtg'
[Sun Jun 30 21:25:07 2013] You told Sakuragi, 'so like 5 6 etc all you we're not in for a long sky raid'
[Sun Jun 30 21:25:14 2013] Sakuragi tells you, 'hmm alright''

This is where I gave up. As I said we can drag to 4 but not 5. If you are going to kill the Keeper we're basically done. I'm sure you're familiar with where corpses can and cannot be dragged in Sky.

I think this log basically shows me trying to be reasonable under the circumstances, offering olive branches and joint raids and such. Noticeably absent is me telling you to fuck off.

I just find it hard to believe that none of the people you had on saw fit to mention the Sky rotation to you. It's not exactly a secret after all - only about 80% of the 50+ players on the server are in on it.

Regardless I hope we can move past all this.

[Gwence]

probably cuz no one knew about it

most of us have been away from the game for a long time now

[Ektar]

multiple keepers can be spawned, and therefore multiple sirrans to get keys to 5.


you hand in keys to our sirran from first keeper.


I know either of these options are only apparent to liars and cheats attempting to ruin good people who follow the rules.


please refer to this rnf post, as that is where I am trying to keep discussion.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...3&postcount=56

I really am a decent fella. the sooner you accept that the better off we'll all be

[SavageBeast15]

Ignorance is never an excuse, only the weak fall back on this

[Ektar]

so you're saying that if someone is ignorant that your foot is right where he's about to step, steps on it, and then apologizes... that's a weak man?


your logic skills are lacking, young grasshopper.



please see this post in the rnf thread:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...3&postcount=56


and all following gems of intellect can be posted in the designated rnf thread

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...33#post1014333

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

multiple keepers can be spawned, and therefore multiple sirrans to get keys to 5.

Are you suggesting that we should port up to Sky, wait one and a half hours for your Keeper to pop, then kill a trigger, and wait another one and a half hours for our Keeper?

Originally Posted by Ektar

you hand in keys to our sirran from first keeper.

I offered you a joint raid and you turned me down. Maybe in hindsight I should have asked for keys but how much do you expect me to push? My read was that you didn't want us there and even in the best case we'd basically have to port up and wait an hour and a half. I think Chardok was a better alternative.

How about we all just agree to move on from this?

[Ektar]

Dear sir,

you would have had to spawn the keeper.. anyway. you're making such claims and missing some key points here. you ported up and we were already on 3. if anything, ignoring we took any loot from 1-3, we saved you that time you would add to spawning a keeper.

is this why you asked if we did a trigger? you could have suggested you doing a trigger. further, if we agreed we'd have 1 keeper and leave, we'd just.. take that keeper you triggered. to save time of us getting to 4 and triggering.


stop saying I turned down a joint raid like it's such an evil thing to do. you suggest joint raiding 5 and 6 -- specifically. we did not want to do isle 5 or higher. simple. I'm sorry we were coming from different mindsets - I can see how it happened - but you can hardly deny my interpretation.


and, sir, idgaf. I only care about (1) people thinking I'm a piece of shit when I'm not and (2) poor logical reasoning backing it up.