Canadian Freedom Convoys

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think about it, this is the first goverment on earth managed by the people.

And yet for some reason the people are getting fucked.

Are people fucking horrible or what.

Corruption man.. corruption.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corruption man.. corruption.

This is just a thought experiment.

Maybe, maybe things are actually at the best they can be, based on our time on earth.

Think about it, when was it was "better" for the workers..?

Like, after posted that I thought, well in the 1800s they would just wall the people up into the building behind the bricks if they had a problem with working conditions.

If I didnt like the competition, Id just hire a pinkerton to kill them.

Now, it's not nearly as cut throat, but it's still not easy for sure...

Maybe we're just on the long, long, road to tranquility...

Can you think of a time it was better to be a working class citizen of any territory on earth in any time?

[walfreyydo]

We are never going to be able to stop people from acting on the impulses of selfishness and greed, we need guiderails (laws, regulations, etc) to mitigate those human imperfections.

On the same token you will also always have people who are lazy, dont want to contribute and suck off the teat of the system. The fact is, those types of behaviors people learn from their environment.

Being poor has a whole host of other socio-economic problems that come with it: substance abuse, domestic violence, mental and physical health issues, irresponsible decision making. Giving people opportunities is the only way to break that cycle. The majority of people in that situation would gladly take any opportunity to get out of it (the military for instance). Some of the issues people face, such as those listed, are barriers to them actually getting their lives together, as much as they would want to.

I will always be a believer that people by and large are willing to work hard and improve their life situation

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just a thought experiment.

Maybe, maybe things are actually at the best they can be, based on our time on earth.

Think about it, when was it was "better" for the workers..?

Like, after posted that I thought, well in the 1800s they would just wall the people up into the building behind the bricks if they had a problem with working conditions.

If I didnt like the competition, Id just hire a pinkerton to kill them.

Now, it's not nearly as cut throat, but it's still not easy for sure...

Maybe we're just on the long, long, road to tranquility...

Can you think of a time it was better to be a working class citizen of any territory on earth in any time?

I mean, do you think we should be going back to those times? There are some in this country that do... Just because things are better than they were doesnt mean we should stop the quest to continually improve.. Thats how we got to where we are and we need to keep that momentum.

[Jibartik]

No im just sayin that "things are not getting worse" but instead they are continuing to slowly get better.

What I am saying is that if you think life sucks now, and that it can be better, you're asking for something that society has never been able to provide in any manor whatsoever.

So instead of feeling like you're getting ripped off, instead be thankful you live now and not 50 years ago where you would be going to war in a draft.

Notice the progress we're making and instead of thinking its all bad, realize, that it's all good?

Maybe right now its not great, but its the best it can be, and all we can do is continue slowly moving the ball forward, which we've been doing, instead of "rolling it backwards" like everyone thinks.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You understood the same question a moment ago about yourself. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are they trading for survival?

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

[Jibartik]

We are never going to be able to stop people from acting on the impulses of selfishness and greed, we need guiderails

we have them:

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Basically is the bill of rights.

The problem is even the best people in the world, when cornered, dont give one shit about them.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

Just tell us,,, what the trade is. You seem reluctant to say it outloud.

Curious!

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People seem to forget that your wage is a negotiation between your skillset (which is the only leverage you have), versus what the employer values that skillset

This negotiation is not to ensure that the person makes enough to not have to be resourceful and live with roommates (or in a shelter if they don’t or can’t). It’s not to ensure that they can afford to own an iPhone. It’s what the employer values the skills that essentially a child could have, if you have none

I'm still a pretty skilled marksman. It's kind of useless tho since I'm not eligible for the gezpacho.

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[starkind]

Unshinghero is a social worker/ helps police. Probably some psyche nursing stuff.

Fairly valuable to society. Full of himself tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe that's just a cover for their assassination jerb tho.

Skills and brainwashing requirements are both pretty high and unique in either case.