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Old 11-12-2015, 08:51 PM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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Default Halls of Testing Trash - Immune to Snare

On live none of the trash mobs are immune to snare.

On P99 however all the drakes, wurms and chromadracs in EToV are immune to snare spells.

I can find no evidence these should be flagged with such immunities.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:59 PM
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The ones in NToV and WToV are immune as well.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:24 PM
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I seem to remember a massive post long ago about how no immunities to anything should exist until the late Velious patch.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:10 AM
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are you suggesting that mobs in sky should be rootable/snareable?
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:51 AM
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are you suggesting that mobs in sky should be rootable/snareable?
They may not have immune flags, but their MR and level are so high it won't land.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:15 AM
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They may not have immune flags, but their MR and level are so high it won't land.
even the faeries on island 1? Also, those pegasus splits that people charm are lvl 53 at the highest, and seem to almost never resist mez/stun/calm.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:42 PM
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http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...22-Damage-logs

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We were there for an hour and 50 minutes and killed 14 mobs. We had no druids, rangers, or necros, and the SK was a whiner, so I was on snare dut
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For all but the glimmer drakes, I cast Atol's for snare, then used a combination of rend robe, sunstrike, and icy spear for damage dealing. For glimmer drakes (which are highly magic resistant), I cast icy spear and lure of ice. The only time I came close to running low on mana was when on full burn against glimmer drakes. I only drew agro once over the night, and that was because of a series of resisted snares.
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Snare was resisted more than half the time, so I also spent a lot of time and mana fulfilling this role
He talks about how Glimmers were super MR and he didn't bother trying to snare.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:53 PM
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are you suggesting that mobs in sky should be rootable/snareable?
Before the immunities patch (like October 2001 off the top of my head) Verant did not have the ability to give NPCs immunity to certain spells. So they just gave all of the bosses (and a few random things like spite golems) 10000 magic resist.

All of the trash bees, for example, should be CCable with mez/charm/root/snare/whatever but they are incorrectly flagged immune.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:22 PM
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even the faeries on island 1? Also, those pegasus splits that people charm are lvl 53 at the highest, and seem to almost never resist mez/stun/calm.
I use my necro epic and solo island 1 all the time.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:44 AM
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He talks about how Glimmers were super MR and he didn't bother trying to snare.
Perfect! Didn't think I'd be able to find much evidence proving a negative.

Glimmers being high MR I could see that. But everything else he was able to snare with just a Atol's.
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