Reading UN channel, whos the villian?

[Hrothgar]

Whole thing is too strange to be fiction, and too sad to be funny.

[saftbudet]

Yeah, reading Detoxx and Furoars disrespect to other in UN:Self-Improvement-Workshop channel has me convinced they have't understood it at all.

Its less about new rules and more about mutual respect. AG and Riot keep trying to bring constructive suggestions. Especially AG seems to be the rational and constructive part.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

^ this... the entire ban needs to remain in effect until these people learn how to treat other people with some spread of respect and dignity... no matter the raid rules as long as people on this server continue to treat each other with hatred nothing will change and we will be RIGHT back here in a month

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or do much harsher penalties. Like a 1 week / 2 week full out raid suspension and loot deletion. People will be on their best behavior then.

You are an idiot. Harsher penalties don't reduce petitions. It makes guilds petition each other more. The only behavior this would change is how fast petitions will fly in. There will be more because getting guild punished will be the goal because it reduces competition.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are an idiot. Harsher penalties don't reduce petitions. It makes guilds petition each other more. The only behavior this would change is how fast petitions will fly in. There will be more because getting guild punished will be the goal because it reduces competition.

Can't send in a petition if youre banned.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't send in a petition if youre banned.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yikes. Maybe stretch your legs, take a breather, re-up the prescription for your insulin. It's just a game.

This an ironic post. Look how much time you spend in RNF trying to trash Freedom. You guys talk about attacking people in the UN channel to try to silence opinions when this is exactly what you are doing here.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Getting anyone in freedom to be silent for 2 minutes is physically impossible... so no dice on that comment

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

coming from a guild that literally cries that it cant kill anything on it's own because a big bad zerg is too much to overcome so they make a bigger zerg for half the loot? Kittens has been, and does compete in TOV and largely without incident. When is the last time kittens needed to concede a mob? Freedom has, on it's own, conceded more than it's killed, but you wanna slander kittens?

You do realize the content in ToV is trivial right ? Most of it can be cleared with 25 players. Freedom and AG have a point when they say a Large Zerg stifles competition. It forces a 30 to 40 man guild to look for outside help because without outside help they simply can't do the same type of engages and pulls that a 60 man guild can do. Trying to attack that stance just makes you seem uneducated.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting anyone in freedom to be silent for 2 minutes is physically impossible... so no dice on that comment

The problem is clearly Riot. Just look at this thread and look who the biggest antagonists are. It isn't Freedom Members or AG members in here attacking others stances. It is Riot members attacking.