recharging and duck spell canceling

[Mac Dretti]

Sig says solo artist

Wants to keep recharging

[flahling]

Mac as Tecmos said they dont use clickies. Not everyone has killed CT to have bags of strings because we arent on the red trying to push a nerf to a server we dont play. Its okay maybe someone will roll a new char and you can grief him with a few fungi alts or kill CT again for more strings. Let us "blubies be carebeared." Ever think you are part of reds pop issues?
Endrant /mad off

[triad]

question whats the big deal with ducking stopping casts?

[baalzy]

It's incredibly useful. Start casting the wrong spell? Duck and immediately cast a new spell. In classic only getting stunned would stop your cast early.

Course the other side of it would be if duck-casting doesn't insta-cancel then you should be able to sit and med through a cast and stand at the last second, letting you hit a tick of mana while casting CH, for example.

[Faerie]

It would be great if there was more consistency between the two servers. Bluebies getting to duck interrupt when the rest of us don't is pretty lame.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sig says solo artist

Wants to keep recharging

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Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bluebies getting to duck interrupt when the rest of us don't is pretty lame.

You should try reading the thread.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not losing my mind over this one truz me. Its just that it wasn't something in wide spread use that I'd think we would implement for a while like, say, the manastone dropping or being usable in the planes for a time.

Most certainly it wasn't wide spread. But you can't change that unless you take mallet out of game, or you make that spell have 0 aggro or you add a cast time to it (even then people will use a single charge on engage most likely so long as the cast time is feasible).

If they want to make a change that isn't classic fine, but I agree with Loraen here...

Remove hybrid penalty
Add iksar planar armor
Implement epic revamps

Stuff that was done 12~ months on live after Kunark launch to fix imbalances. Not 36-48~ months after Kunark launch.

Oh and SoulFire... Please make that Paladin only clickable. People buying MQs for non paladin is so unclassic it's stupid.

[Tecmos Deception]

You don't seem to be consistent, dald. Soulfires used for CH clicks is just like mallets used for aggro. Both are classic mechanics, it's just that p99's players use these mechanics in ways and on a scale not seen during the live classic era. You can't change the mechanics and say "it's classic" any more than you can leave the mechanics and call the experience classic. The devs decide when they leave mechanics classic (most recharging) or when they try to tweak mechanics to achieve a more classic experience (ivandyr's hoops on raid bosses)... or if they want to do something inbetween (don't have any examples off the top of my head though).

Imo, for what it's worth, mechanics should generally be as classic as possible and whatever result you end up with is just what happens when you have players in 2014 playing a game from 1999. It's just like with any old thing that people still like to spend time with now. Would you want the author of your favorite book to update the way of writing and the story and the cover art and the names and shit just because you've read it enough times to know it inside and out already? Probably not. You just enjoy it as your favorite book, even though you know how it ends as soon as start rereading it. Would you want a remake of the Godfather with new actors and a tweaked story? Fuck no. Would you want to play a tweaked version of Doom that is designed to foil the strategies and knowledge of level layout and stuff that players have nowadays instead of just enjoying the game the way it was made? I hope not. Etc.

[Daldaen]

The selling of SoulFire MQs is largely what bothers me about it. And it was specifically nerfed during Velious so only paladins could use. I haven't seen Lucan up in awhile due to what I assume is people farming to MQ or to use on their raids or solo challenges. The Brother Hayle shout calls out a non paladin 90%+ of the time and that is certainly not classic.

It's a debate of classic environment (minimal use of these clickies and recharges), VS classic mechanics (MQing and recharging no problems). Which do we care about more... That needs to be decided by the staff and really it's pretty irrelevant what we think.

They have gone both ways. See pet tank changes due to pre Kunark PoSky / see Ivandyrs hoops. And see recharges being in and MQs being in.

Is it a classic FEEL to not see people pet tank PoSky or Hoop down bosses, yes
Is it a classic MECHANIC no.
Is it a classic FEEL to see level 1 rogues and clerics with epics, no.
Is it a classic MECHANIC that quests can be MQed at any level only checking faction, yes.

[Tecmos Deception]

You acknowledge it is the impossible issue of classic mechanics v. classic experience and that it is the devs' decision to make, but not before arguing "NOT CLASSIC" and that a Velious change should go in now because you dislike seeing level 30-something SK's getting a soulfire! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]