TAKP TLP Jan 1st 2025

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The launch is 5 months away so stuff is subject to change. Hopefully unlike PQ the changes after launch will be less extreme and more predictable in-line with a consistent vision for the server.

So far it looks like most legacy items won't be in the game. I don't mind legacy items (not that I have any) but I think no legacy is preferable to making rare and overpowered items that were nerfed for a reason into the most easily obtainable items in the game. They also won't be futzing with spawn timers or instances, so the market won't be flooded and the gear you get will be more meaningful.

There is going to be enforced raid rotations, not sure about quakes. I think a lot of people don't like the cut-throat competition on p99, but are also turned off by the live/PQ raid scene. Rotations with occasional quakes seems like a good compromise to me, but I have no idea if that's on the table.

[Solist]

Legacy items dont do anything except give some bagspace for a monk, and help a cleric pre kunark farm.

Very nice to have. But green was classic example. When everyone has a guise guises arent special.

When everyone has 1-5 manastones, manastones arent special. You're kinda more unique there to not have one. They just rot away taking a bag space up on 95% of peoples toons and never get used.

Box of abu karrs are a win tho....

[Evia]

Originally Posted by spoil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The launch is 5 months away so stuff is subject to change. Hopefully unlike PQ the changes after launch will be less extreme and more predictable in-line with a consistent vision for the server.

So far it looks like most legacy items won't be in the game. I don't mind legacy items (not that I have any) but I think no legacy is preferable to making rare and overpowered items that were nerfed for a reason into the most easily obtainable items in the game. They also won't be futzing with spawn timers or instances, so the market won't be flooded and the gear you get will be more meaningful.

There is going to be enforced raid rotations, not sure about quakes. I think a lot of people don't like the cut-throat competition on p99, but are also turned off by the live/PQ raid scene. Rotations with occasional quakes seems like a good compromise to me, but I have no idea if that's on the table.

When you say "most" legacy items won't be in the game, do you know what the exceptions are? Like, is there some legacy items they're choosing to leave in the game you know about?

Idk. I like fresh start servers, and so I'd likely give it a whirl if it was a no boxing server.

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Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legacy items dont do anything

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Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you say "most" legacy items won't be in the game, do you know what the exceptions are? Like, is there some legacy items they're choosing to leave in the game you know about?

I just read the thread in the takp forum.

"We have added legacy drops like Guise of the Deceiver, Lustrous Russet, Cryosilk, Box of Abu-kar, Rubicite, etc. - but did not include items that would effect the balance of TAKP live server, such as Manastone, Pre-Nerf fungi staff, Staff of Forbidden Rites, Red/White Dragon Teeth, or Circlet of Shadow etc. The legacy items that do drop, will drop at their original drop rates, and for their limited timespans."

But they later said they're considering removing guise.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idk if they did single box I might try it. However at that point how is it much different from PQ?

PQ dramatically improved the takp database. Low level zones / newbie areas are very unclassic on takp, and it shows on new server release. Secret’s team did an okay job at bodging it into a working state.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legacy items dont do anything except give some bagspace for a monk, and help a cleric pre kunark farm.

Very nice to have. But green was classic example. When everyone has a guise guises arent special.

When everyone has 1-5 manastones, manastones arent special. You're kinda more unique there to not have one. They just rot away taking a bag space up on 95% of peoples toons and never get used.

Box of abu karrs are a win tho....

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

Guise dropping from the guk camp on Takp TLP would invalidate 10 years of it being the main prize in the yearly anniversary event on the main server.

It could probably get away with dropping under other conditions.

[spoil]

Guise dropping from the guk camp on Takp TLP would invalidate 10 years of it being the main prize in the yearly anniversary event on the main server.

That could impact tens of people.

It's actually refreshing to see that respect and consideration shown to the players, better than a developer gleefully pulling the rug at the last possible minute with a surprise rule change. Not that I've experienced that directly.

However I think a good argument for keeping guise in the game is it's an incentive for people who are on the fence to jump on the server and play, FOMO and all that. It's also a nice way years down the line to signify you were there from the start.

[Solist]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many people on green never got a guise. That list camp was brutal and usually 10 people deep. I got one, and it took like three attempts and I almost gave up. Finally got mine a couple days before they were removed forever.

Guise is the only truly cool classic legacy item because it's no-drop. You can always just buy a manastone for a stupid amount of plat if you really want one bad enough. Guises are a one-time-only deal and my epic dark elf druid owns, thank you very much.

I got guises on four level 5 toons rotting away on dead server. There was no lists if you levelled fast enough, just show up at night, kill ass/sup camp between farming rest of undead tower, and log in alts to loot.

The only list camp that was annoying was manastones. And fair play at how obscenely rare they made them for no reason at all except poor knowledge of EQ by the devs. But every single person on the server got between one and three regardless.

[magnetaress]

Guises should stay in butt new ones should be a different illusion from dark elf.