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If you get a 100% success chance to mem blur any mob below level 17 using Mesmerize why would the EQ devs have created a level 12 spell called Memory Blur? The only utility this spell would have is to eventually be better at mem blur success rate after you were fighting mobs that are level 17+ and really it would only have significant difference after 20+. It seems likely that math is related to memory blur spells but NOT the Mesmerize spell's mem blur component. It makes zero sense that they would give you a level 4 spell that has 100% mem blur success rate and then a level 12 spell that offers a higher success rate that is useless until you're higher level. In classic people used the Memory Blur spell to kill steal mobs. No one was going around casting the level 4 mez spell to kill steal but apparently it had a ~100% success rate making it more efficient? The level 4 mez spell, and all classic mez spells, never mem blurred mobs at any kind of significant rate. Certainly not ~100% success rate at level 30. | ||||
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Also you said that you proved it but you didn't, you used hide one time not every time. If you want good logs then do it right, cast invis con the mob then re-mez. More work? Yes, but it's better proof of what you are saying and relies on no assumptions. Again I'm not saying you are wrong just that you didn't bring the evidence you thought you did. | |||
Last edited by cubiczar; 02-11-2021 at 11:26 AM..
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Is there ANYTHING an Enchanter could do with level 12 Mem Blur that isn't done better by level 4 Mez at the level they get it? Is there any other spell in EQ that is like this? Some spells may offer questionable benefits vs mana and such but I don't think there is a single instance of an EQ spell being given that is worse than a lower level spell in all possible ways until you're 30+ levels higher than when you get the spell? | |||
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Also you don't seem to get the point of the 96 tests, that was someone that thought the chance to blur was lower than what the poster was saying the calculation was, did the testing and proved to themselves there was no issue. So there was no need to post the evidence because they didn't think there needed to be a change. You on the other hand DO think that something needs to change, therefore YOU need to bring evidence to prove that what is currently in game is wrong. In general the devs have made the game work in a certain way based on something, if there is an issue with that they want evidence showing there is a problem. So prove it, otherwise it's sorta pointless to post (unless Dolalin gets interested and does the work for you). | |||
Last edited by cubiczar; 02-11-2021 at 12:00 PM..
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have you looked at some gear that give AGI to casters? why would a dev do it. Bring proof to the game or go post your rant in RNF, because it seems more RNF than a BUG per say. | |||
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Where are the logs to prove SoW didn't sometimes make you move faster? Where are the discussions refuting it? Dev posts? None of it exists because it never happened so there is no evidence to disprove it. The evidence is the lack of evidence. Where are all the old Enchanter guides that mention using level 4 mez as a good mem blur alternative? Why do they always say it had a small chance to mem blur if they mention it at all? Why are there so many in era posts about mez, lull, and mem blur as a means to drop aggro? If mez was near 100% no one ever thought to mention you don't need to do all this extra work? All you can find is some evidence that there was a "small chance" to mem blur from mez. Yet if you post actual logs showing it's at 100% at level 30 it's not enough. Well, the small chance must be based on your level and once you're level 50 THEN it will be a small chance of only 30-40%. Ridiculous. Honestly I'm kind of just going to give up on Enchanter. Enchanter pets have too high HP (proven), channeling is way too successful on P99 (proven), charm was so buggy/unreliable as to be usless in classic and most of Kunark (proven). The list goes on but Enchanter just keeps on being ridiculously non-classicly overpowered while other classes like Necro and Bard were nerfed for being overpowered in spite of classic mechanics. Enchanter did not have 100% mem blur to level 30+ from a level 4 spell. Anyone who is being honest knows this is true. It never happened. It is widely "proven" already because as I said there are a ton of in era references to mesmerize having a "small chance" to mem blur not anything close to 100% let alone 50%. Again.... MULTIPLE IN ERA SOURCES STATE MESMERIZE HAS A SMALL CHANCE OF MEM BLUR, I JUST POSTED A LOG OF 100% SUCCESS AT LEVEL 30. THIS IS NOT A SMALL CHANCE. THERE IS YOUR PROOF IT IS BROKEN AND NOT CLASSIC. NOT EVEN THE MATH IN THE LINKED THREAD INDICATES IT SHOULD BE THIS SUCCESSFUL. KNOWN CLASSIC MECHANICS LIKE AE KITING AND PET ATTACK SPEED FROM WEAPONS WERE NERFED DUE TO BEING OVERPOWERED. ENCHANTER DESERVES THE SAME GIVEN IT NOW HAS AT LEAST 3-5 KNOWN NON-CLASSIC MECHANICS WITH EVIDENCE AND SEVERAL MORE QUESTIONABLE ONES. You can pick either option. Enchanter is obviously broken given the evidence presented or Enchanter is obviously overpowered and needs a nerf same as some other "OP" classes that were non-classically nerfed. The only other option is that Enchanter will not be addressed because it is being protected as a preferred class. Which is it? | |||
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after playing as many and as much level 60 enchanter as I and many others have here, I can tell you this much: when I say I feel a difference I am 100% correct.
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