Ranger ac parsing (I'm serious)

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try Blue or Green if you want to get passable gear and learn how to play the game. Or stay on Red farming Paineel while you finish your manifesto.

[Salaryman]

RED99

I play for pvp, you play to kill the same dragon over and over and look nice in the freeport tunnels, if thats "gameplay" for you I feel bad for you.

RED99

[Snaggles]

Pity from a Red99 shield ranger?

*clutches pearls*

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Salaryman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RED99

I play for pvp, you play to kill the same dragon over and over and look nice in the freeport tunnels, if thats "gameplay" for you I feel bad for you.

RED99

Coming from the guy who won't shut up about his stupid robe, that's rich.

[bcbrown]

Ignore the tedious guy begging anyone to care about his silly shields and let's keep talking AC parsing. Here's two short parses on my 60 druid, one with 146 worn and 61 spell ac, and one with 99 worn and 61 spell ac. On the 54 cleric, 132 + 64 was noticeably below the squelch point, and 163 + 64 was either at or above the squelch point.

If the druid isn't being softcapped, 60 druid at 146 + 61 should be in between those two graphs, and that is indeed what it looks like. The second parse at 99 + 61 was meant to be the same as the 106 + 64, but I messed up and took off one too many pieces of armor. It looks like this is slightly below the midpoint where there's an equal number of max and min hits, which again tracks with the cleric results. Both druid parses are only around 250 hits, so they're pretty noisy.

So now that is parses on three classes, with plate, chain, and leather armor types. None of them show any signs of a softcap. They show that for at least this single mob ac up to around 200-250 gives an improvement in damage taken, in the form of what would otherwise be max hits turning into min hits. All three have identical defense skills of 200.

Next steps: one, upgrade my ranger to see if he can either hit the squelch point or show signs of being softcapped. Second, do some more parsing on a tougher mob. Froglok hunter/forager are level 45 instead of 40, so I think that's who I'll try next.

[Salaryman]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignore the tedious guy begging anyone to care about his silly shields and let's keep talking AC parsing. Here's two short parses on my 60 druid, one with 146 worn and 61 spell ac, and one with 99 worn and 61 spell ac. On the 54 cleric, 132 + 64 was noticeably below the squelch point, and 163 + 64 was either at or above the squelch point.

If the druid isn't being softcapped, 60 druid at 146 + 61 should be in between those two graphs, and that is indeed what it looks like. The second parse at 99 + 61 was meant to be the same as the 106 + 64, but I messed up and took off one too many pieces of armor. It looks like this is slightly below the midpoint where there's an equal number of max and min hits, which again tracks with the cleric results. Both druid parses are only around 250 hits, so they're pretty noisy.

So now that is parses on three classes, with plate, chain, and leather armor types. None of them show any signs of a softcap. They show that for at least this single mob ac up to around 200-250 gives an improvement in damage taken, in the form of what would otherwise be max hits turning into min hits. All three have identical defense skills of 200.

Next steps: one, upgrade my ranger to see if he can either hit the squelch point or show signs of being softcapped. Second, do some more parsing on a tougher mob. Froglok hunter/forager are level 45 instead of 40, so I think that's who I'll try next.

RED99

I am not just gloating about the fact that my items are better then yours, This is a thread Dedicated to Ranger AC parsing, Rangers can use shields, if you had even just 1 shield (you dont) you would know that.

So do some tests with a shield (you have none) if you actualy want to contribute to the Thread and what it is Dedicated towards.

Because I am busy being the Top #1 Number 1 PVPer in all of EverQuest History to bother with "parsing" or "raiding" or anything else a nerd would do.

RED99

[Snaggles]

Do your own science, you have all the “best” shields!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=437049

My ranger carries 10 weapons and no shields. If I cared about shield AC and low dps, I would have logged in my 60 sk or 60 paladin in the last 6 months.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do your own science, you have all the “best” shields!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=437049

My ranger carries 10 weapons and no shields. If I cared about shield AC and low dps, I would have logged in my 60 sk or 60 paladin in the last 6 months.

Just Lolocaust.

*DED99*

[Tethler]

Bro in here PvPing on the forum because no one plays on

RED99

[Jimjam]

Anyone have updates to this thread?

For years, I've been saying a narrow band of AC is actually useful for each mob - bcbrown's cleric results suggests this could be as little as a difference of 30 AC or less. To me that is crazy!

The other thing I was interested in, is how AC seems to be almost like a switch - you either mitigate well or mitigate badly. The posts in this thread don't seem to indicate there is much transition between those two states in the narrow band where AC is actually relevant.