Peacebringer vs IFS after *maybe* next patch

[Spacebar]

Thank you all for your responses. I think I got the answer I was looking for. Was mostly trying to get an idea of if it was worth getting a 2hander before next patch since I expect the price on them to inflate a bit after it goes live.

[Wallicker]

What you really should be figuring out is how to get a coth to PoM to get that BLAM stick!!
Blam stick + best ratio offhand is the new non raid target setup outside ToV and Tunare loot!! Believe it!

[Troxx]

I would be interested in seeing how well blam stick performs after the patch but I still expect Tstaff to put out more raw damage on both high and low ac mobs, especially if the monk is level 60 for innate triple attack. All of Tstaff damage directly benefits from innate triple attack (primary hand only). In any dual wield set-up, it will only affect primary hand.

Having said that ... blam stick should be sexy. It's slow though.

Epic ((9x2)+11)/16 = 1.81 for primary hand
Blam ((30x2)+11)/40 = 1.77

Primary hand the simple math puts epic fist superior to blam stick due to speed. The calculation is anything but straightforward when you factor in the effects of strength on actual damage dealt but as a general rule of thumb it holds true. Slow speed on blam stick may well have it still behind epic for primary hand dps.

For non-monks who don't have access to a wickedly fast 9/16 ratio, blam stick is a lot flashier.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Spacebar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you all for your responses. I think I got the answer I was looking for. Was mostly trying to get an idea of if it was worth getting a 2hander before next patch since I expect the price on them to inflate a bit after it goes live.

PB/IFS at a minimum will hold value for whatever you buy it at. Chance of going up is very real. Chance of going down? Non-existent.

[Wallicker]

If only DPS was as simple as that formula lol... but it’s not with high afk on low AC mobs (non-raid group content) and a monk at 255 str try your formula out with x3.2 that’s closer to a more accurate ratio.

[Troxx]

Using a very generous 3.2 (not exactly realistic)

Epic: 2.49
Blam: 2.67

7% better than epic with a ballsy_high 3.2. That just goes to show the critical weakness for this weapon with regards to the monk class. 16 delay is so blisteringly fast enough it compensates quite well for the inferior ratio. If only blam stick were offhand usable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TStaff with 3.2 after the dmg bonus change goes live?

4.06

Blam stick + SoM offhand
Mh + mh(da) + oh(DW) + oh(DaDw)
2.67 + 1.82 + 1.22 + 0.83 = 6.54

TStaff = 4.06 + 2.76 = 6.82 (then add in proc dps)

So if you use a very generous and less than realistic 3.2 the TStaff still wins. If the monk is 60 with triple attack 2hander pulls even further ahead. If you use any variable lower than 3.2, blam stick falls yet further behind (and using 2 it is worse than epic). The higher the mob level and ac, the lower modifier you have to assume.

Blam stick is a good weapon but functionally should perform within spitting distance of epic because it is mainhand only (-2% to +7%). It’s not going to be better than other pre velious options. Don’t forget Wu’s Fist of Mastery at 16/22. Whether using 2 or 3.2 it will beat out the blamo as well and it’s a plane of sky equipment.

[Wallicker]

You need to add in triple attack for main hand dw

[Troxx]

Only applies for level 60s. Inclusion of triple attack favors 2handers but we can do that easily.

If triple attack is 5%:

Add 0.203 to TStaff = 7.023
Add 0.1335 to the DW = 6.67

Staff pulls ahead by 0.0695

IFS @ x3.2: 3.89 + 2.645 + 0.1945 = 6.72

Even IFS beats blam stick + SoM at 60.

The higher the triple attack bonus the more heavily it favors 2hander weapons.

No matter how you run the numbers (I did it last night with a x5 modifier) TStaff will beat any non-velious raid dual wield setup other than 2x Wu’s fist of mastery. With Wu’s and x3.2 and 5% triple attack:

2.83 + 1.924 + 1.924 + 1.308 + 0.1415 = 8.13

TStaff procs will close the gap a bit.

If you use a 2x mod:

TStaff: 2.9 + 1.972 + 0.145 = 5.017
Wu’s: 1.95 + 1.32 + 1.32 + 0.902 + 0.0975 = 5.589
IFS: 2.75 + 1.87 + 0.1375 = 4.756

TStaff procs would close the gap a bit

TLDR version:

If and when the patch goes live no non-raid weapons will beat TStaff. Dual Wu’s fists and up are the only competitors. IFS and PB are not far behind TStaff.

So yes ... buy an IFS or PB.

[Wallicker]

Haha I’ve seen the parses of this weapon on low AC mobs 100+ dps without anything besides worn and epic haste.

[kjs86z]

So anyone have some more info on Blam Stick now?

59.5 monk here w/ epic + ada club. Mostly dwell in sebilis. Should I be getting my butt to PoM and getting a blam stick?