Game Mechanics: Social / Charmed Pet Aggro - Page 2

Lazortag · #11 08-05-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy Lazortag is a fucking idiot. His argument is that it's possible to execute swarm dot aoe kiting to a lesser extent with less mobs and more danger involved.

That's my "argument"? An argument is a logical construct. What you've cited is not an "argument". Do you go to school?

Lazortag · #12 08-05-2010, 04:34 PM

Also, to be clear, my argument is that people who use overly broad, dismissive statements like "Bards are completely nerfed", "Bards are unplayable", "Bards are ruined because they can't do _____", are wrong and annoying. If Bards were "completely nerfed" then I would pretty much never be able to get into a group, yet I have no problems finding groups. If Bards were completely nerfed I would never be able to solo things effectively, or kite things, yet I have no problem doing either. By all means, try and get the devs to fix Bards so that they're 100% classic again, but don't be so fucking whiny about it, and don't act like Bards are at all bad the way they are now.

I really do like what Jete is doing and when I saw him in-game I even praised him for fighting the good fight, and for being reasonable and actually using evidence instead of whining and bitching (though he probably didn't know it was me). Most of the other wannabe Bards on this server just complain excessively without doing anything to help their cause.

JayDee · #13 08-17-2010, 01:42 AM

We want bards to be as effective as they were on live.

Period

Lazortag · #14 08-17-2010, 08:35 AM

Learn to read.

Musetii · #15 08-30-2010, 10:10 PM

GM Ruling? Bump for great future justice!

darkonites · #16 11-06-2013, 01:26 AM

answer?

whitebandit · #17 02-25-2014, 11:54 AM

total necro bump..

gonna start playing my bard again.. was looking into the charm-swarming as an option.. it sounds like as it stands things may not have been fixed as of yet..

maybe with Haynars pet love upcoming, charm pets will see some love as well :-p

Nirgon · #18 02-25-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorroth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before making charm even more manageable, maybe charm should have its periodic resist checks looked at. Having (enchanter/necro) charm last its full duration several times on a 45+ mob, even at max CHA, is definitely not classic.

In classic, one Fear or Hate planar mob had to be babysat by an enchanter and druid duo (snare, heals) because charm was so unreliable.

But by all means, let's trivialize content even more.

YES THANK YOU

Daldaen · #19 02-25-2014, 01:57 PM

Not many classic people knew to tash and Malo their pets and keep those refreshed on breaks though.

Without those it's unreliable. With, it becomes a whole lot more reliable with 200+ CHA.

But yea, bard swarming needs to be classic. Especially in Velious, so many tasty outdoor zones.

Wrench · #20 02-25-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

total necro bump..

gonna start playing my bard again.. was looking into the charm-swarming as an option.. it sounds like as it stands things may not have been fixed as of yet..

maybe with Haynars pet love upcoming, charm pets will see some love as well :-p

last i checked bard charm kiting worked fine

used to pull all giants at ww fort, charm one, send at another, run swarm over top of pet

dont know if the social aggro was quite as high as classic, but it was definitely workable