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[Cecily]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I support capital punishment for all rapists and pedophiles.

You might be surprised to know that this isn't an uncommon opinion. I think I might even share it myself. Which is precisely why having a VICTIM have even a shred of empathy for the person who raped him is so surprising. That guy is a good person. You're an average American.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's called forgiveness. It belongs to a higher order of things than law and retribution. And it's not my or your place to choose whether or not it's given.

Theres a difference between forgiveness and STUPIDITY. This is STUPIDITY.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You might be surprised to know that this isn't an uncommon opinion. I think I might even share it myself. Which is precisely why having a VICTIM have even a shred of empathy for the person who raped him is so surprising. That guy is a good person. You're an average American.

Somehow I don't think ISIS cares about you forgiving them.

[Cecily]

Please elaborate. Why is it stupid?

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please elaborate. Why is it stupid?

Your ignorance of the ISLAMIC ideology is quite sad. Islam doesn't respect the weak and THE QURAN views YOU as a TOOL to be used against western society. YOU EMBOLDEN the Enemies of western society. They know they can use you and your sickophant ideology to infiltrate your government/lands and when they become the majority will force their culture/religion/ideology upon you. Read the "Quran Dillemna" it's a great book that opens your mind to the truth of ISLAM and its ultimate goal. Research the Guise of Allah, you will find there is no such thing as a PEACEFUL ISLAM. Every member of that FAITH has a role to play in the TOTALITARIAN THEOCRACY Revealed to Muhammad. Islam is a death cult built on slavery and mutilation, your weakness only inspires them.

The only way to defeat the ideology is to destroy it.

[Cecily]

I don't think we're discussing Islam or the best way to destroy it in this thread. You and I, specifically, were discussing why forgiving someone who wronged you is stupidity. Would you like to answer that?

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think we're discussing Islam or the best way to destroy it in this thread. You and I, specifically, were discussing why forgiving someone who wronged you is stupidity. Would you like to answer that?

Has the rapists asked for forgiveness, has he served out punishment equal to his act?

Your NOT talking about FORGIVENESS, your only concern is your self righteousness. Don't give me this shit about forgiveness, when we're really talking about YOU thinking your sooooooooooo evolved compared to everyone else.

And we're specifically talking about the issue of the man being raped and then being a fool about.

[Cecily]

Well he served 4+ years in prison and was deported. So according to the country with jurisdiction, yes he has been punished. The guy we're speaking of feels guilty because he feels the deportation is a second punishment, after the guy had already served time. We Americans can relate to that with how we feel about double jeopardy.

And I don't think I'm being particularly self righteous. I do think you guys are being assholes about this and making it a big joke. Which happens far too often when men are victims of sexual assault. And you didn't answer my question.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Research the Guise of Allah, you will find there is no such thing as a PEACEFUL ISLAM.

This isn't entirely true; the Islamic notion of peace bears some similarity to the old Roman notion of peace. Peace is the end state which occurs once all enemies have been destroyed.

Danth

[Daywolf]

meh has nothing to do with forgiveness, self-righteousness or even time served really. It's a matter of prevention. As a victim you see to it that the person isn't just let go to do it to someone else tomorrow (literally). In this case the perpetrator was incarcerated and then kicked out of the country, proportionately correct under the circumstances of the case. His victims guilt is his own confusion, likely brought on by his progressive ideals.

As for executing such people, this would only result in a new assassin class to say the least. Hire an assassin to seduce someone, they cry rape, the mark is executed by the state. I can see a lot of flaws in disproportionate sentences, and likely leading to other such improper uses of justice such as executing the victim like they do under sharia law.

Any form of acceptable disproportionate extremism leads to a disproportionate counter extremism eventually, a cause and effect result. Western law is more based upon an eye for an eye, where as such executions under disproportionate measure within modern law practice I only know of by examples of sharia law, at least as practiced culturally among a number of countries rather than some often odd local law standards (e.g. laws of the wild west etc).