Upgrading my warriors aggro weapons?

[Dolalin]

Tomte has a great post there, but one thing to note: your offhand has a 50% proc rate penalty over your primary hand. So a weapon in the offhand will proc half as much. This means your offhand weapon represents less than 50% of your total proc potential as stated. Total procs over a fight will approach 66%/33% primary/offhand.

This means, for instance, that a proccing weapon which beats a DPS weapon for threat in the main hand may not beat the same weapon for threat in the offhand. Which can be quite important.

[Soothsayer]

Wait, so does a poison proc effect not generate all of its hate in one instant whenever the weapon proc occurs? In other words, does a weapon like Infestation generate 300 hate up-front and then 600 more hate over time as the poison counters "tick" on the target?

I used Infestation for a few more hours in Karnor today, and I still don't think the hate generated by its proc is all that impressive, at least not up front. I can recall several instances where the monk managed to peel aggro within ~10 seconds of Infestation proccing, but that shouldn't be possible if it generates 900 hate instantaneously.

So fucking confused. :/

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tomte has a great post there, but one thing to note: your offhand has a 50% proc rate penalty over your primary hand. So a weapon in the offhand will proc half as much. This means your offhand weapon represents less than 50% of your total proc potential as stated. Total procs over a fight will approach 66%/33% primary/offhand.

This means, for instance, that a proccing weapon which beats a DPS weapon for threat in the main hand may not beat the same weapon for threat in the offhand. Which can be quite important.

Oi you are right I failboated that.

Offhand is 33% of your potential proc power.

Going from no offhand to proc offhand does increase your total procs by 150% (ie 2 proc per minute to 3 at max dex).

[Varren]

How about the chelaki tail? How does disease stack up? 300 aggro like poison?

I wonder if the 1hs puts it over infestation. Looks like a whip...

[elwing]

Originally Posted by Varren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about the chelaki tail? How does disease stack up? 300 aggro like poison?

I wonder if the 1hs puts it over infestation. Looks like a whip...

3poison marker, so 900 agro for a start +minor agro for the rest

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Varren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about the chelaki tail? How does disease stack up? 300 aggro like poison?

I wonder if the 1hs puts it over infestation. Looks like a whip...

Chelaki tails: 9/19 ratio; proc 3 disease counters (??? aggro per disease counter) + nominal dmg

I could be wrong but on p99 a disease counter seems nowhere near as strong as a poison counter. Otherwise ... if a Disease counter was comparable to a Poison counter:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Truncheon_of_Doom

that has 9 disease counters and would be worth 2700 threat per proc

Truncheon of Doom would be supreme aggro 100% of the time, but it isn't not even when it procs. I would therefore assume a disease counter < a poison counter for raw threat. I have a truncheon (and have used a lot since level 50) and the proc is nowhere near that strong.

So ... I honestly do not know for that weapon.

[elwing]

I don't have value, but I can guarantee that disease counters agro pretty well:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Disease_Cloud

[Dolalin]

Monk flying kick etc has a hate value above its raw melee output. It's a bit like a Rogue backstab in that regard.

[Nibblewitz]

Can a warrior channel a bio orb on an AEing mob?

[lurk]

As long as there's no stun or knockback component