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Old 09-06-2022, 02:01 PM
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I find your fresh attitude to be preposterous, society is in dire need of better funding for education and takes like this are a perfect example why. Kids like you will understand when you get older.
You're right though that we need better funding for education.

Or to put it another way: Make it damned cheaper.

I've been done with college for over 20 years now so it doesn't affect me, but these kids have to pay an arm and a leg for a degree now. And why? Because it's big business.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:06 PM
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You can get a welding certificate for like 1500 dollars of part time community college and then make over 100k a year welding

Let alone if you so 4 years and become journeyman in the ironworkers union.

Not that expensive just not popular.

Everyone told the kids to go to college so they went and found no jobs.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:29 PM
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You can get a welding certificate for like 1500 dollars of part time community college and then make over 100k a year welding

Let alone if you so 4 years and become journeyman in the ironworkers union.

Not that expensive just not popular.

Everyone told the kids to go to college so they went and found no jobs.
Yup

Also, if someone is set on college, these are questions they should be asking:

- What are the available jobs for this degree, and will the education still be relevant in the field a few years from now? When the IT field was rapidly progressing, I was hearing about how programming classes were still using outdated languages, for example

- what sort of reputation does the college have for your field of interest? Some colleges have a great reputation for a particular field and a bad reputation in others

- When considering what the field of work will be like, is this based off what the college is telling you or what you read online, or are you actually going to the businesses and agencies in the field and asking what they are looking for from their employees? Are you asking employees what working there is like?

- How far out is the break even point where based on your expected income you can expect to have paid off your student loan and begin making profits?


If someone covers these bases even paying overpriced college tuition they should be ok. If they don’t that’s on them. They’re grown ass adults who made a bad decision with their money. If I decide to drop $50k in a Vegas casino I can’t expect to go crying to daddy Government to pay them

Lastly, are you an emotionally-functionable professional? There are as many people at my work who have gotten fired not because they were unqualified or cut corners, but because they could not work with other people without blowing up on their boss or co-workers because they had the emotional intelligence of a 14 year old. This is also on you to fix, not daddy government. “I can’t pay off my student loans because I can’t maintain a job” doesn’t always mean “I picked the wrong degree”
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:52 PM
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Everyone told the kids to go to college so--
--they could rack up massive amounts of cash selling them literally nothing for huge fee's because the money was "invisible", and the people just ate it up

and then when anyone points this out this solution is to give money to the crooks that took them for a ride in the first place, the same people that god suckered get all pissed off at you.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:53 PM
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Yup

Also, if someone is set on college, these are questions they should be asking:

- What are the available jobs for this degree, and will the education still be relevant in the field a few years from now? When the IT field was rapidly progressing, I was hearing about how programming classes were still using outdated languages, for example

- what sort of reputation does the college have for your field of interest? Some colleges have a great reputation for a particular field and a bad reputation in others

- When considering what the field of work will be like, is this based off what the college is telling you or what you read online, or are you actually going to the businesses and agencies in the field and asking what they are looking for from their employees? Are you asking employees what working there is like?

- How far out is the break even point where based on your expected income you can expect to have paid off your student loan and begin making profits?


If someone covers these bases even paying overpriced college tuition they should be ok. If they don’t that’s on them. They’re grown ass adults who made a bad decision with their money. If I decide to drop $50k in a Vegas casino I can’t expect to go crying to daddy Government to pay them

Lastly, are you an emotionally-functionable professional? There are as many people at my work who have gotten fired not because they were unqualified or cut corners, but because they could not work with other people without blowing up on their boss or co-workers because they had the emotional intelligence of a 14 year old. This is also on you to fix, not daddy government. “I can’t pay off my student loans because I can’t maintain a job” doesn’t always mean “I picked the wrong degree”
So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

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Old 09-06-2022, 04:38 PM
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So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

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She's hot. She'll be fine.
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Old 09-06-2022, 04:54 PM
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She's hot. She'll be fine.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:03 PM
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So you're saying no Gender Studies degree. Got it.

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Lol the girl I’m dating actually has an art history undergrad degree. She already admitted that it’s not useful and now works as a home appraiser not using her degree
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:46 PM
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I literally remember when the establishment was saying how Europe takes a year off after highschool before college was lazy and dumb haha then their teenage kids with no life experience pick a carrier to invest a life's savings into lol
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Old 09-07-2022, 08:39 AM
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I've been grinding away at my CS Degree as an adult. My work pays for most of it. I suspect the issue is two-fold, people take out these massive loans for degrees that are fruitless while at the same time refusing to work and pay for school as they go. Instead they maintain their standard of living through parental subsidies (bad idea).

I work in the grocery business and it's astonishing the flip that has occurred in the last few years, these jobs have been traditionally filled by young people. Now most of the grocery store workers are old folks. This trend can be seen in nearly all service industry roles.
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