Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > Class Discussions > Casters

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 03-29-2019, 02:47 AM
zarza zarza is offline
Kobold

zarza's Avatar

Join Date: May 2018
Location: seoul
Posts: 117
Default

i was wondered before i test this,

if i have 1300ac, and 600ac, does these two acs still getting same dmg from mob? or is make it difference?

i didn't test like 600ac vs 800ac because these two acs are not big difference ac value and it might be hard to make sure dmg is differece

that's why i tested big jump for make sure. it was easy to see there dmg is difference.

BUT i still wondering about AGI works on reduce dmg.. -_-

i assume AGI is helped to tanking while i dmg test ( it was 250agi vs 130agi )

Brad McQuaid: "AGI: affects how quickly you can learn some defensive skills, how difficult it is to hit you as well as how much damage you take when you are hit

If the 250 agi is the main reason why i got reduce dmg compare 130 agi . i would be confusing.

i mean agi is main helped me for dmg reduce or ac is main helped me for dmg reduce

i need AGI test if there agi is makes better reduce dmg than AC for pure caster.

hope my assuming about agi is just wrong and troll. i love AC. not AGI




________________
Zarza <Aftermath>
  #22  
Old 03-29-2019, 05:49 AM
commongood commongood is offline
Fire Giant


Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 759
Default

What I want to know is:

Should I be bothering with casting Umbra on myself all the time or what? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Is 29ac significant?
  #23  
Old 03-29-2019, 06:09 AM
zarza zarza is offline
Kobold

zarza's Avatar

Join Date: May 2018
Location: seoul
Posts: 117
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
What I want to know is:

Should I be bothering with casting Umbra on myself all the time or what? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Is 29ac significant?



yea i use umbra unless someone give me aego or aegis or bulwark
  #24  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:11 AM
A1551 A1551 is offline
Sarnak

A1551's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 204
Default

Incredibly interesting. Thanks for taking the time to put some real numbers to something everyone constantly argues about based on very little actual evidence!

Also holy crap enchanter with 1330 ac!
__________________
Blue
-Propo Fol, Enchanter
-Adeno Sine, Monk
<Azure Guard>

Green
-Curare, Necromancer
  #25  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:21 AM
Tecmos Deception Tecmos Deception is offline
Planar Protector

Tecmos Deception's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,785
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
What I want to know is:

Should I be bothering with casting Umbra on myself all the time or what? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Is 29ac significant?
Why wouldn't you? It lasts like 2 hours or whatever and costs nearly no mana.
  #26  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:27 PM
Foxplay Foxplay is offline
Fire Giant

Foxplay's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: MI
Posts: 939
Default

Raid gear with lots of AC and hp makes you tankier

In other news water is wet

JK good job on running some tests for actual numbers
__________________
Foxpox [60 Shaman] / Foxcharm [60 Enchanter]
Foxystyle [60 Druid] /Foxfansy [60 Bard]
Foxpet [60 Magician] / Foxaid [60 Cleric]
Foxlich [60 Necromancer] Foxplosion [60 Wizard]
Foxstab [60 Rogue] /Foxcharming [60 Enchanter] / Foxfrenzy [60 Warrior]
  #27  
Old 04-01-2019, 09:31 AM
jolanar jolanar is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,314
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Why?
Basically displayed AC is a combination of mitigation and avoidance. Your "real AC" can be calculated by counting the AC on your armor.

EQ Live finally changed how this was displayed in 2017 to split out avoidance and mitigation into two separate stats on your character sheet.

Then again, who knows how it works here really.


Also worth noting: different classes receive different benefits from AC. With cloth casters receiving the lowest benefit. On live it went something like this: Warrior got 50%, Knights and Monks got 33%, Priests, Bards, Rangers and Rogues got like 20%, and clothies got 10%. (Numbers from memory so probably not perfect.) BUT everyone gets the full value of their shield AC.

But again, who knows how it works here.
Last edited by jolanar; 04-01-2019 at 09:48 AM..
  #28  
Old 04-11-2019, 02:23 AM
Xaeophi Xaeophi is offline
Banned


Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 817
Default

Lol.. i pity the people who think ac is useless [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
  #29  
Old 04-11-2019, 04:01 PM
Rimitto Rimitto is offline
Kobold

Rimitto's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 107
Default

So the results are that more agility/AC means you have a higher chance of receiving minimum damage..[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so theoretically... agility is the new meta? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This makes sense now why my character always seems to drop to unconscious so much instead of straight up dead. (I did the dumb and picked some agi on char creation)
  #30  
Old 04-11-2019, 04:09 PM
Legidias Legidias is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,681
Default

AC has always been the stat for mitigating damage hits (lower chance of hits landing at max)

The question was how much this benefitted casters in terms of raw HP vs AC.

(Agi above 75 is useless)
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43 PM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.