Alternative To DKP - This Will Go Over Well...

[magnetaress]

I was totally ignored by the nerd rage sparked in the previous threads.

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A combo of DKP and/random is best were u use ur DKP to buy a /random on items with set prices.

Surprised u have not figured that out yet.

Also, UN guilds then instead of just dkp may buy into UNDKP. Guilds may than purchase back the UNDKP of returning players.

[getsome]

The TLP servers run GDKP all the time. A popular meta is to bid on droppables and sell them afterwards for a profit (mostly for the Kael raids). Most people who run them take a cut for their effort.

I still have a link to one of the spreadsheets used a few years back.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ew#gid=3385341

Based on the price of krono sold by daybreak this raid had the equivalent of $4000 worth of krono spending. Everyone made about $40 worth of krono at dbg prices. This raid was VT in early POP as people would not be able to burn their lockout during the actual expansion.

You did not have to farm plat to get regular raid loot. Just attend a few GDKP raids and you would bank enough coin to start the flow of loot. Vulak items and AHR items always went for a huge amount and you would need to have substantial bank for those. Payments were made on the spot and the cut was parceled thru the in game mail.

The only realistic use of GDKP on blue would be HoT raids and Vindi.

As for free loafers on raids, since the total take is split, if someone was found to be not contributing they were just removed from the split and banned from attending future raids. Pretty much everyone on the raid had motivation to report slackers.

[Nexii]

Why wouldn't it be realistic on blue for raid content? GMs would ban it? Or just the overhead involved.

[getsome]

Competition from other raid guilds.

[Nexii]

Yea it would have to be a new raid guild with GDKP structure, not just for some open farm squad.

GDKP would be far better than what goes on now. Where people stick around in toxic guilds just because their DKP is worthless elsewhere. Vulak loot prison became the term...

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by Boptop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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underrated post here

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vulak loot prison

this is a nice term, it’s like golden handcuffs for aspergers living in mothers basement

[7thGate]

Makes sense to me, I could see a system like this working pretty well. An account based payment system where you have a ledger at the guild bank fixes the plat distribution problem, but man would that become a tasty guild bank to steal.

Might make sense to require the transfer before looting but allow people to log over to deposit after the bid. People could keep an alt next to the guild banker with however many millions of plat they end up bidding on a Vulak drop and only using ledgers at the guild bank for deposits (so you could go and ask for your cut back whenever if you don't want to trust holding a few hundred k in an account owned by the guild).

[ScottBerta]

The fact is it’s easier to farm pp and it would incentivize people to only attend raids for items they need and this spend all the other time at cash camps. DKP at least gets Raiders to do stuff for and with guild.

[matticas]

No strong opinions on the subject, but the name "Makelove Notwarcraft" is fabulous.