Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plenty of time to swap a weapon, drop aggro with a spell or evade/flop macro, glug a Wort and refresh a junk buff. EQ raiding is just Dance Dance Revolution with a keyboard after-all.

Raiding is not all of EQ and even when raiding you don't always need to be dropping aggro or managing buffs in combat. For a Monk it's laughable to suggest that it's difficult to just click the weapon on and off for fist damage while managing to flop as needed. If you're a Warrior tanking, then you're not trying to drop aggro in the first place, LMAO. You're either using a clicky to build aggro at the start of the fight or you're just sitting there auto-attacking and pressing one combat skill button when refreshed. If "only attacking" is what's happening, then maximum effectiveness is 2-hander + offhand swapping.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to pull a DSM here and demand some logs to see what the actual DPS difference could be. If it amounts to like 1-2 dps tops, not worth it IMO to go totally apeshit with APM. If it's going to be more significant, say for instance similar to what the 52/58 SK pet can put out, then I could potentially be on board.

The difference is easily calculatable. Just plug in the numbers for a character's dual wield chance and the damage of the weapon being used. Using an offhand is obviously more than 1-2 DPS; that's already completely obvious when dual-wielding normally. It's braindead how certain people are saying swapping to an offhand "doesn't matter" or is only "theoretical", when this has been done since 1999 and was used to win BotB.

Quick calculation example: for a Ranger at Level 60 using Shovel of the Harvest + Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn (their best 2H + offhand combo), the offhand swap creates a 22% increase in DPS compared to not weapon swapping. That percentage increases when using a 2-hander that isn't the absolute best, like for example the Argent Defender that is easily obtainable on p99 (and makes swapping more user friendly, because of the longer delay); 26% increase in that case.