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And to Alarti's point, the Idol camp is not the only P99 monopoly. Another example would be the CE camp in Seb, which was monopolized for weeks on Green by a guild. Quote:
Seriously, you have got to learn to express your ideas without writing essays. This will be my last response to you unless you can write forum posts like a human and not like a NY Times column. But to your point, you've still failed to show how either system requires more GM involvement. And switching to a random system would have a much bigger bonus than just eliminating monopolies: It would make this place more classic! (which, if you look in the upper-left corner, is the entire goal of P99).
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Secondly, adding one more camp to the like 5 camps that are monopolized isn't helping your case. As you said yourself, 99% of camps are not monopolized, so whether that number is 5 camps or 6, it isn't generally a problem, and Shiny Brass Idol isn't even that great of an item outside of raiding lol. The camp owner rule is designed for the 99% of camps that aren't monopolized, I am really not sure how you can miss this obvious point, other than willful ignorance. Thirdly, I have not failed at all. You have simply admitted you have not been reading my posts, which has been pretty obvious to be honest. Please don't bother chiming in to a conversation if you can't be bothered to participate, it just makes you look silly. You yourself have given all the evidence needed to prove my point that the camp owner rule is valid, you just don't want to see it because you simply don't like the rule. You can certainly have that opinion, but you are wrong[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Finally, it is not possible to write complex ideas into a few terse sentences. Why? Because human beings can interpret words in many different ways. It is why people write books, rather than sentences lol. The more descriptive and clear I can be, the better you will understand my point. If you can't be bothered to read, why bother to post? Your post based on half-read, half-understood knowledge is basically going to be nonsensical most of the time. EDIT: Also, I think you missed my entire point. The PnP is designed to avoid GM involvement. That is why you don't get GM involvement lol. But because the PnP is designed to try and avoid GM involvement, you cannot fully separate it from the idea of GM involvement, as you have been trying so hard to do. That is why the camp owner arbiter rule exists, the camp owner acts in place of a GM to try and avoid GM involvement.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 01-25-2022 at 02:09 PM..
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What you didn’t have in era were so many different camps being monopolized. You didn’t have the raid meta that we do today so there were many camps that no one bothered monopolizing | |||
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So here's how these camps work now...
"Just got my idol, someone come out and replace me." "I'll be right there." "Cool. There's some <whatever guild I don't like> scrub here right now, so hurry it up." "I'm here." In chat- Sorry man he had the camp after me. How is that fair? There should be a list for these camps like every other camp. If you leave the next person on that list should get the camp. You should have to declare when someone messages you who is next in line and if you fail to within a timely manner, then they automatically get the spot when you leave. You should not be able to hand down a camp in perpetuity, never giving another person/guild a chance at that camp. This is the fair way to manage a camp and there should also be a time limit for how long you can remain at a camp farming. You should not be able to stay til your bags are full if the item is needed by a lot of people. Monopolies are not classic and were never intended to happen, regardless of how the game is today. | ||
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If you want a shot at the camp, wait there and look for an opening, as I said before. The camping party does make mistakes, and you can swoop in if you catch them being AFK for too long.
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How i picture some douche bags around here entering camps that they don't own or have rights to.
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I guess as an adult, i'm not quite sure why you think that's considered winning? It's very confusing to me. By all means i'm not here to make fun of you cause you have insane amounts of playtime.. It's more to to educate you, that i'm not quite sure where you think this is humiliating to somebody? How much time you have today? I'm available to listen to your problems if you need- | |||
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Second, with respect to lists sure if you go to the camp and ask if there’s a list and they say yes they have to tell you who is ahead of you. That’s always been a rule. If they say there’s currently no list then you are entitled to say ok I’m next and wait until they are done with the camp and then take it for yourself; what you’re not entitled to do in that situation is say okay then I’m next and then go off into the world doing whatever you want and expect the person at the camp to wait until you get there to hand it off to you. When the person is done and you’re next on the list you get the camp if you’re there to take it…they can of course decide to be nice and wait until you get there to pass it to you, but they have no obligation to do so once they’re done with the camp…if you’re not there then you can lose the camp to the person behind you. Imagine posting all these whiney comments because you’re upset someone else is farming the items to sell to raiding guilds and so you’re missing out on price gouging raiders for it. Are you an adult???? | |||
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