ok, so did Donald Trump win or lose in this election?

[America]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting something is better than nothing, no? Weird rationale. I’m hearing similar rhetoric on conservative radio.. but that’s nothing new.

didn't hit landslide levels, and indeed performed worse than anticipated, even after the most enormous, unified, coordinated, and extreme 2-year smear campaign of a sitting President in history. It's a clear Trump victory

it is going to be 8 years

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting something is better than nothing, no? Weird rationale. I’m hearing similar rhetoric on conservative radio.. but that’s nothing new.

Sure, it's deeper than that though.

Historically the party in the White House loses badly in midterms on the first term, especially when a president’s job-approval rating is below 50% as it is now with Trump.

The president’s party has lost an average of 37 seats since the end of World War Two.

You can see here, last night's performance was pretty average to probably above average:

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You can see holding onto both house and senate are incredibly rare.

Also, he did quite well despite the media running propaganda 24/7 and claiming he's absolutely hated by everyone.

The midterms proved that just isn't true.

[Wonkie]

*2 chambers away from calling a convention*

*loses 7 governorships, several state chambers, and the house*

this is a bigly victory for tormp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[America]

he pretends he's puretrolling but he's mad rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cecily]

Fired his Keebler elf, too. I’m pretty happy about that.

[katrik]

Well as a moderate I’m very happy with last night. Certainly better than the last two years. I’ve always been a glass half full kind of person.

[rebeccablack]

seriously though if youre going to call something a win because you didnt lose as bad as whatever arbitrary standard you consider "really bad" you can never really lose

i guess thats the secret to trumps success?

[Nisse]

holy fuck, wrong forum much

[America]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well as a moderate I’m very happy with last night. Certainly better than the last two years. I’ve always been a glass half full kind of person.

your glass is half full of shit

*uproarious laughter from crowd*

[Nexii]

Doesn't look like there's much correlation between seat loss and being re-elected or not.