Rant: Elder Holgresh Beads are a bad item

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The flaw with your logic is there is constantly more and more plat being pumped into players every minute the server is up. People never lose plat over time unless they constantly make very very bad trade deals. The average amount of plat or items worth plat any player has always only goes up. So people can get away with charging more.

So spider fur belt was worth 200-300% more over a period of a couple weeks because there is always plat being generated? If that's the case, then shimmering terror hide cloak which drops in same zone/area should have also seen a large increase, it didn't.

When P99auctions opened, the price of a lot of items started dropping quickly. As soon as the tunnel fat cats hacked it into shutting down, prices on all of those items began to rise again. I doubt that's coincidence, and I would guess that's the same reason why they already attempted to shut down p99tunnel.com

The flaw in my logic was trying to apply logic to an elf pixel market that's mostly arbitrary and thrives on a lack of information available to the buyers.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So spider fur belt was worth 200-300% more over a period of a couple weeks because there is always plat being generated? If that's the case, then shimmering terror hide cloak which drops in same zone/area should have also seen a large increase, it didn't.

When P99auctions opened, the price of a lot of items started dropping quickly. As soon as the tunnel fat cats hacked it into shutting down, prices on all of those items began to rise again. I doubt that's coincidence, and I would guess that's the same reason why they already attempted to shut down p99tunnel.com

The flaw in my logic was trying to apply logic to an elf pixel market that's mostly arbitrary and thrives on a lack of information available to the buyers.

the stats on the belt are much better than the cloak, and there are better cloaks already available. Belt slots always seems to be lacking. the flaw is how you're trying to compare items.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the stats on the belt are much better than the cloak, and there are better cloaks already available. Belt slots always seems to be lacking. the flaw is how you're trying to compare items.

What item would you compare? It just doesn't seem probable to me that a bunch of people just realized Spider Fur Belt was a good twink item a few months into 2017. If the demand suddenly skyrocketed I don't think the guy would have been auctioning "WTS Spider Fur Belt 3k" everyday while everyone else was asking at least half that.

Are you disagreeing that EC prices are frequently successfully manipulated or are you just disagreeing on this specific item?

[Comoc1]

If I used a wc cap instead of hammering every time I needed to get outta the ToV ent I could just buy beads with the cost of recharges

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://i.imgur.com/vIaBs.jpg

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What item would you compare? It just doesn't seem probable to me that a bunch of people just realized Spider Fur Belt was a good twink item a few months into 2017. If the demand suddenly skyrocketed I don't think the guy would have been auctioning "WTS Spider Fur Belt 3k" everyday while everyone else was asking at least half that.

Are you disagreeing that EC prices are frequently successfully manipulated or are you just disagreeing on this specific item?

spider fur belt is one of the best droppable belts in the game for melees with desirable stats and +40 hp, esp. for monks as its 0.1 weight

closest comparisons would be white wolf-hide girdle or silken cat fur girdle, which sell for about 4-6k.. go figure

[nyclin]

not sure why my image post got quoted in there but w/e

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What item would you compare? It just doesn't seem probable to me that a bunch of people just realized Spider Fur Belt was a good twink item a few months into 2017. If the demand suddenly skyrocketed I don't think the guy would have been auctioning "WTS Spider Fur Belt 3k" everyday while everyone else was asking at least half that.

Are you disagreeing that EC prices are frequently successfully manipulated or are you just disagreeing on this specific item?

Mostly about this specific item. EC prices always fluctuate, a fungi was 70k 1.5 years ago and is steadily going up again.

[burkemi5]

They used to be more useful was FD/ sneak was OP. You could single pull and break any camp, including casters, super easily.

[Maner]

you realize you can summon an eye then FD and use it to move everything out of your way when pulling right?

The biggest example of this is kael if you dont want to kill PoZs

[Mockba1980]

I am surprised that people do not know the huge potential of this object and the multiple things which we can make with. Tekilya you should take advice with your guildmates instead of making a fool of you.