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Old 05-20-2019, 10:52 AM
DiogenesThaDogg DiogenesThaDogg is offline
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What happens if there's a false start/someone goes too soon?
If your FTEer is past zone line then a pop happens then they go FTE, that's a DQ. Otherwise, as long as the mob is not up yet, you can have as many people in the zone wherever you want (don't actually).
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:09 AM
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What happens if there's a false start/someone goes too soon?
Perma forum ban if you do that
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:27 AM
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I've never seen the tunnel mouth used. I've always waited at FV/KC zoneline.
Guilds started working on the list quoted above because recently Gorenaire FTErs started sitting at the tunnel between port areas/Dreadlands instead of the normal spots. This was an issue because 1) it's a spot which seems to violate the raid rules; 2) other guilds are at an a disadvantage because they have no idea the closer spot is being used.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:29 AM
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They made rings because other guilds were mad bards could outrun their coth exploit fte. True story
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:39 AM
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I've been trying to get guilds to agree to no casting CoTH on FTErs for outdoor kunark raid targets.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:14 PM
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Coth should get a “your gate is unstable and collapses” critical failure
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:17 PM
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Dain Frostreaver IV: Behind the archway just past the zone line.
Faydedar: On the island with the Ogre camp (#1 on wiki map).
Gorenaire: At the druid rings.
Kael Drakkal: Behind the ice/snow line at the Wakening Lands zone line.
Kelorek`Dar: At the zone in rings or Siren's Grotto zone line.
Lady Vox: Before the ladder at the zone in.
Lord Nagafen: In the entrance tunnel from Lavastorm.
Lord Yelinak: At the fountain to Cobalt Scar or Wakening Lands zone line.
Severilous: At the Field of Bone or Trakanon's Teeth zone lines.
Sleeper's Tomb: Behind the entrance door.
Talendor: At the Burning Woods or Overthere zone lines.
Temple of Veeshan: Behind the bottom step just past the entrance door.
Trakanon: At the zone in.
Veeshan's Peak: On the blue entrance pad.
Venril Sathir: The hallway between the entrance zonelines.
Zlandicar: Behind the zone in portal.
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Plane of Fear: At the PoF portal in Feerrott.
Plane of Hate: Anywhere not in Hate unless actively clearing with a raid force.

This seemed like something that should be general knowledge, so I wikified it:

http://wiki.project1999.com/FTE_Race_Lines

If there are any changes to these lines (or if I got the rules summary at the top wrong in any way) please feel free to correct it yourself; it's a wiki!
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:55 PM
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I recently sought clarifications around DQs. This is my understanding, which Llandris confirmed is in line with the current rules:

Natural Spawns
You are DQd from a target if you have more than two past the line when it spawns, unless your entire raid force:
  • leaves the wing if in ToV; or
  • returns to the blue pad if in VP; or
  • was in PoH and actively clearing when a Innoruuk or a mini spawned.
In any other instance you remain DQd from that target until it dies and will face concessions and loot deletion if you engage.

Two past the line includes everyone with your guild tag. People not going for FTE, people AFK somewhere in zone, people in an XP group who don't even attend your raid, etc. all count toward the two tracker limit.

Earthquakes
You are not DQd from any targets as long as your entire raid force:
  • leaves the wing if in ToV; or
  • zones out if in any planes; or
  • returns to the zone line if in any other zone.
If you engage without doing this you are getting tracker FTE and will be forced to concede (and face loot deletion).

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The FTE lines in the new raid rules effectively define the closest point your FTErs or raid forces can stand - anyone past those lines are "trackers".

You're free to set up elsewhere if you so choose, but you must be further back than the defined line.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:48 PM
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Two past the line includes everyone with your guild tag. People not going for FTE, people AFK somewhere in zone, people in an XP group who don't even attend your raid, etc. all count toward the two tracker limit.
I do not concede.

The leveling guilds should decide this by-law. They have little input to the raid scene, stay out the leveling scene.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:55 PM
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I do not concede.

The leveling guilds should decide this by-law. They have little input to the raid scene, stay out the leveling scene.
It's not my rule - it's what the server rules currently dictate.

I think it's silly to penalise guilds who have XPers who take no part in a raid, though it does get harder to police.
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