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Old 12-15-2016, 12:22 AM
Matthalas Winterheart Matthalas Winterheart is offline
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Native American make the best shamans.
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:26 AM
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Native American make the best shamans.
"It was such a wonderful experience here with the Indian."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMP8lPOKRGI
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:03 PM
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Ogre.

Frontal stun immunity isn't replicated by any other means. It's true any shaman end game played well can do anything any other shaman can do.

People tend to underrate FSI/JBB and overrate regen.

At 60 with regrowth/fungi tunic on you an ogre/barb regenerates at 34 hp a tick, troll/iksar counterparts at 42 a tick(standing). When you throw torpor into the equation the percent benefit of that 8 hp really does become minuscule but maybe some people prefer it still. And leveling it is obviously great, don't get me wrong.

And there is a misconception when people say 'well bash interrupts casts anyways through frontal stun immunity, you just don't get the stun part but are still interrupted, which means it's just an overrated ability'. This is patently false and I can only assume they've never played an ogre shaman at high levels or are parroting false information read elsewhere when themselves choosing which race to play.

I don't have concrete numbers on this but from personal experience I believe the chance for a bash to interrupt a cast is simply the chance any damage has to interrupt a cast vs your concentration check or push. I leveled with JBB spam to 60 and could literally go hours face tanking mobs without a single interrupted cast.

Now how many interrupts would another race would have gotten in the same time frame or if those interrupted casts even made any real difference in terms of survival or in kills per hour is another question entirely, but just wanted to clear the air on that if you do have FSI, basically be welcomed to interrupt free heaven.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:07 PM
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Tbh I would personally go troll becuse the neck clicky.

i kno i kno fsi is great, but the only time i die in dungeon soloing ever is from mob running.

And i mean 100% ever.

if its a mob you can solo, the only way it kills u is by ether you being a moran or it running and resisting all roots (even double malo'd herophants will do this).

Unfortunetly for non troll shamans, a JBB will break a root, mob will run and now u have 2 seb protectors on you.

So for ME its the neck all the way

Also I like to adorn the walls with the blood of my foes.
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:29 PM
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ogre is king in bis gear

the only racial that is not negated with items is FRONTAL STUN IMMUNITY
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Old 12-15-2016, 11:02 PM
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ogre is king in bis gear

the only racial that is not negated with items is FRONTAL STUN IMMUNITY
unless the skeletal hero starts walking off...
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Old 12-16-2016, 01:40 AM
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This shaman race poll from a while back might be worth a look. http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=222813
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Old 12-16-2016, 01:46 AM
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frontal stun immunity is only useful when you're bad at the game and/or retarded
Because being stunned occasionally won't stop a pro shaman? Surely you're not saying a shaman should never tank a mob while soloing.
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Old 12-16-2016, 02:57 AM
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If you are edging through a fight could make a difference.

Mobs gonna run prob anyway tho and u gon die from a seb protector
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Old 12-16-2016, 11:36 AM
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(assuming every sham has or can get Epic/Fungi/Torpor intensifies)
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