Miscellaneous: /who all zone was a GM command during the time period Project 1999 emulates.

[CrazyPro]

/who all zone was not available to players until years after Velious, and so it should not be available to players on P99.

I've compiled a small list of evidence:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010221...62173060.shtml

/who all >zone<
by Chris - 06/21/00 01:10 EST
We will not being seeing a command to see who is in a zone at all (it was hinted a while ago that players might). It's a shame really that we aren't.
This functionality already exists for those who are GM flagged, however due to bandwidth and server load issues, we've decided not to open it up to the playerbase at large. This command has to query the server of the requested zone in order to return the list.
Dozens of people on each server executing the command at the same time would presents the concerns mentioned above.

-Gordon

In the below link, in this guide from 1999 on all of the in-game commands, there is no mention of a /who all zone functionality for the /who command.
https://web.archive.org/web/19991008...om/command.htm

this is a very broad command, basically the /who command just tells you who is in the zone. While the /who all command tells you who is in the game world. You can also use it to find specifics, for example you could type /who all cleric or /who all cleric 50. The first one would report how many clerics are in the world, the second would report how many are level 50. You can also do this by race or race/class, such as /who all barbarian rogue or /who all gnome necro. Abbreviations work fine most of the time. You can also do /who all friends to see a list of everyone who is on who is on your friends list. Or you can do a /who all GM to see any GM's on, if they are not in inviso mode =)

In the below link, in a google chat group post from Dec 5, 2001, it is explicitly mentioned that a /who all zonename command does not exist.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...wC6Y7TAJ?hl=en

>|Without a /who all zonename command, one of the
>|first steps in getting unused areas used has to be making travel easier
for
>|players.

[Allishia]

/veto

[Duik]

That looks like it's saying as of

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In game commands

Command Function
/AFK
... many more commands
Then...

/who and /who all
this is a very broad command, basically the /who command just tells you who is in the zone. While the /who all command tells you who is in the game world. You can also use it to find specifics, for example you could type /who all cleric or /who all cleric 50. The first one would report how many clerics are in the world, the second would report how many are level 50. You can also do this by race or race/class, such as /who all barbarian rogue or /who all gnome necro. Abbreviations work fine most of the time. You can also do /who all friends to see a list of everyone who is on who is on your friends list. Or you can do a /who all GM to see any GM's on, if they are not in inviso mode =)

So it seems it is in era. Or did I miss something?

[Rygar]

Excellent find. I know there are logs floating around of the entire list of help commands, I can see if it is in there

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That looks like it's saying as of


So it seems it is in era. Or did I miss something?

He is saying you can't do /who all crystal to see who is in crystal caverns

[Ennewi]

https://web.archive.org/web/20010502...56143319.shtml

Thursday, April 13th, 2000

Game Enhancement Questions
by Chris - 04/13/00 06:31 EST
Some good questions and answers about some enhancements for EQ
>>>When you target and NPC and hit 'h', you say 'Hail Whoever'. Why can this not also be so when hailing players?
That's always bugged me too. I'll ask the guys about it tomorrow. Thanks for reminding me

>>>More communication of what's going on to those around you, or at least in your group. I'd like my casters to be able to see me taunting away, and I'd like to see the damage they're doing or not doing with their spells. This would promote trust within the group I'd think

We like the idea that people learn to trust that those in their group will do their jobs (such as a warrior taunting), but we also have a technological bias here. Any time we broadcast a message to everyone in a group, that uses bandwidth. Though the amount of bandwidth in use might seem inconsequential, when we take a very frequent occurance like taunting, and multiply it by 50K+ people online at one time, it *really* adds up.

The group loot messages, which is the last thing we added a group broadcast for, occur far less frequently than something like a taunt would, definitely uses a good chunk of bandwidth.

>>>A kind of "/who all zone" command, that would either list, or at least give a count of the players in a specific zone (without one being in that zone). In an overcrowded environment, it would save casual players a great deal of time if they could look to find a less-used zone to hunt in without having to travel to it first.

We're still looking into the possibility of this. We like the idea and think it would enhance gameplay for those that choose to find greener pastures.

>>>Be able to buy large quantity items without having to click my mouse button 40 times. A slider bar is good

Good idea. I know we have this on the wish-list, but no definite short-term plans for it.

>>>An option that allows other players inspecting you to see the stats of the equipment you're wearing.

This probably won't happen. I think that it opens a nice avenue for communication. It also gives people the option of keeping the stats on an item secret.

>>>When SOW, invisible, etc wears off the text should be flashing in multiple colors. A lot better than the hard-to-see blue text

We're still looking into options to help out in these cases, and also in the cases where people are color-blind. I'm blue-black colorblind myself.

-Gordon

https://web.archive.org/web/20010221...62173060.shtml

Wednesday, June 21st, 2000

/who all >zone<
by Chris - 06/21/00 01:10 EST
We will not being seeing a command to see who is in a zone at all (it was hinted a while ago that players might). It's a shame really that we aren't.
This functionality already exists for those who are GM flagged, however due to bandwidth and server load issues, we've decided not to open it up to the playerbase at large. This command has to query the server of the requested zone in order to return the list.
Dozens of people on each server executing the command at the same time would presents the concerns mentioned above.

-Gordon

There is one post, later but within the classic timeline, that indicates the command was eventually made usable to players and then other post that suggests it was not, at least for planar zones.

https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...-msg-43182.txt

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"Eq Caster" <None> wrote in <tqi4k0b0kk5t64@corp.supernews.com>:

>Has anyone else notice a shift in your server population spots since
>Verant has removed the population of online users. I am on Prexus which
>used to be one of the most heavily populated servers. I still sort by
>population and now it seems Prexus is a mid-range in population. It
>shifts up and down some but never to the bottom anymore my question is
>where did everyone go?

My new rule of thumb is to do a '/who all Oasis' and multiply by 100.

I'm on Drinal as well, and it shows up mid-list for me.

~Empty

--
"I'm constantly forgetting my own phone number. Quite simply,
it's because I never call myself. (I used to, but I was never
home. I just gave up after a while. I figure if I want to talk
to me, I'll just have to do it in person.)" -Walker

https://web.archive.org/web/20020108...icID=112.topic

Gregar1
Threatening Poster
Posts: 53
(10/29/01 2:37:23 pm)
Summit Clarification: Small Guilds
Actually, the numbers changed, Aldrin, but the way it works is the same. Both guilds use a booking each for the same raid.

I'm wondering about the logistics nightmare of keeping track of who currently needs what epic piece from what plane at what time?

And, I guess we're the weirdos. Our epic loot rules are the same as regular loot rules. If you are on the raid, and you need it, you random with everyone else who can. We don't do set-asides. Oddly, many of our guests talk it over privately. I'm reminded of three rogues in Hate with us who decided amongst themselves who was most "needy". The other two passed on the random. In our eyes, that makes all three people more "epic" than some twinkling doodad VI cooked up. THAT is "uber".

We can do the 18 to book requirement, barely. We can also do the 12 up there requirement, IF it's a good night for all our folks. That will be our crapshoot nowadays. But, then again, if no enchanters show up, and none are available, I declare it FFA too. We will have less raids then we did. We will have to work harder to keep them. But, our lives in Norrath don't revolve around a plane, an epic piece of garbage, or a game.

Will some cheat? Were some cheating before? To say it wasn't proven doesn't prove it wasn't happening. Actually, Aldrin mentioned on our Hate raid that a "/who Plane of Hate all" would be a good thing, good idea. But, realize there is no enforcement possible. Verant doesn't give a rat's patoot. It's all about honor, and we can only hope karma applies.

The Ridgerunners will honor this Summit as we have all of them. We don't accept WE WANT IT AND WE WANT IT NOW as a valid option for us. We don't accept "Others cheat so we can" as a valid option for us. That's for others to do.

Gregar Mataennoo
Ridgerunner
Ranger 52nd

Sharyl Dabrat
Threatening Poster
Posts: 60
(10/30/01 7:29:42 pm)
Re: Summit Clarification: Small Guilds
And for anyone that cares, but not enough to read it in context, here is what you (Aldrin) contributed to the meeting.

...

it's a shame you can't do a /who all Hate or /who all Fear
second
FFA
what if they're anon?
why not?
no, why not anon in hate?
nevertheless life would be easier if you could /who all zone to see who was in a particular zone
but I digress
If the tie can't be broken, change my vote to abstain
nifty trick. I'll start trying it
okay, leave my vote at FFA
second
FFA hate
blah, diplomats
we're voting on hate atm
blah diplomats
here, Wolfypaw... "Who here feels strongly about FFA vs FiF in Hate"?
*** Aldrin was kicked by [TFC]Xaria (Time to go.... be well Aldrin )
*** Hiraghm_ was kicked by [TFC]Xaria (Time to go... be well.. )

Edited by: Sharyl Dabrat at: 10/30/01 7:30:25 pm

[Reiwa]

Semi-tangentially-relevant:

On live /who count returns the number of players in your current zone without displaying their names/other info.

On p99 it don't do dat.

[Zuranthium]

This tickles my memory. I seem to remember needing to do "/who all [level]" or more specifically "/who all [class] [level]" to fish for people who were in the zone I wanted to know about, and then message those people and ask them "how many are in zone"?

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This tickles my memory. I seem to remember needing to do "/who all [level]" or more specifically "/who all [class] [level]" to fish for people who were in the zone I wanted to know about, and then message those people and ask them "how many are in zone"?

You just dilated my pupils