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Old 02-19-2015, 04:13 PM
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So I've been keen about a cleric for a while and would like to put some time into it during my stay in p1999. My question is... what class?
On the basic check through, I'd say halfling for hide and sneak with XP bonus. Only thing is, I'm not a great fan of halflings. My second opinion then would be HE, but is the low str worth being concerned about?
What do people play? What are the upside/downsides of them?
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Old 02-19-2015, 05:18 PM
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high elf is seriously the worst race in game
On a more serious note:

Do you like short races?
Dwaves, Halflings, Gnomes, and Dark Elves (some what).

Do you want awesome functional abilities no other race has?
Hide is limited to Dark Elves and Halflings. Not nearly as OP as it used to be but still good for AFKs in some areas.

Sneak is what puts Halflings over the top for me. It allows you to use merchants, explore and gain access to quests that the other races can not do without a lot of faction work or having to use invis/calm.

Dwarves have innate + magic resist, if you plan to PVP it could help.

Do you like to use wall scoping to see what is on the other side?
Dwarves, Gnomes, and Halflings get this ability without the need for shrink. Dark Elves can do it to some extent.

Do you want to wear robes?
Kunark and Velious best in slot pieces for clerics are both robes. Leaving Dwarves and Halflings in the cold. Plus there are some other nice looking robes clerics can wear for fashion purposes.

Do you want cool clickies?
Erudites/Humans get some cool clickie item quests in Paineel.
Gnomes can tinker some cool stuff up.
Dark Elves have access to a snare necklace.
Dwarves get a summon beer clickie in Velious.

Do you want to wear awesome racial/deity armor?
Dwarves and Gnomes (Brell). To a lesser extent Dark Elves (Innoruuk).


Do you mind being an evil race?
Dark Elves, some human, gnome, erudite deity combos


Do you want 5% xp bonus?
Halflings! Although once you hit 60 it becomes moot.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:31 PM
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Ele already covered most of the pros/cons. My attitude is always that the most important factor is what you think looks the coolest.. Race advantages/disadvantages be damned.
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:03 PM
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On a more serious note:

Do you like short races?
Dwaves, Halflings, Gnomes, and Dark Elves (some what).

Do you want awesome functional abilities no other race has?
Hide is limited to Dark Elves and Halflings. Not nearly as OP as it used to be but still good for AFKs in some areas.

Sneak is what puts Halflings over the top for me. It allows you to use merchants, explore and gain access to quests that the other races can not do without a lot of faction work or having to use invis/calm.

Dwarves have innate + magic resist, if you plan to PVP it could help.

Do you like to use wall scoping to see what is on the other side?
Dwarves, Gnomes, and Halflings get this ability without the need for shrink. Dark Elves can do it to some extent.

Do you want to wear robes?
Kunark and Velious best in slot pieces for clerics are both robes. Leaving Dwarves and Halflings in the cold. Plus there are some other nice looking robes clerics can wear for fashion purposes.

Do you want cool clickies?
Erudites/Humans get some cool clickie item quests in Paineel.
Gnomes can tinker some cool stuff up.
Dark Elves have access to a snare necklace.
Dwarves get a summon beer clickie in Velious.

Do you want to wear awesome racial/deity armor?
Dwarves and Gnomes (Brell). To a lesser extent Dark Elves (Innoruuk).


Do you mind being an evil race?
Dark Elves, some human, gnome, erudite deity combos


Do you want 5% xp bonus?
Halflings! Although once you hit 60 it becomes moot.
WOW! Thats an amazing analysis!
May have tipped the favour back towards halflings.. or DE.

Can I ask, without sounding to noobish, whats wrong with HE apart from their dismal strength?
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:12 PM
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WOW! Thats an amazing analysis!
May have tipped the favour back towards halflings.. or DE.

Can I ask, without sounding to noobish, whats wrong with HE apart from their dismal strength?
There is nothing unique about them.
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:17 PM
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There is nothing unique about them.
Does the high wis count for anything?
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:21 PM
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Does the high wis count for anything?
Thats about it, but its not a big enough advantage over other cleric races with the benefits/skills they get.
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:27 PM
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Ok, good to know thanks! Can you tell I have no experience making a class other than a caster or monk? lol

Halfling cleric coming right up!
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:45 PM
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Does the high wis count for anything?
The wisdom difference won't really start having a big impact mana pool wise until around level 30, when wisdom starts to give good returns. By then though and towards 50-60, you'll have plenty of +wis options in gear and jewelry that any race can have decent wisdom even if you don't drop points into on creation.



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Can I ask, without sounding to noobish, whats wrong with HE apart from their dismal strength?
Their longshanks and pale skin are ugly! They forgot what it was like to farm and live in the earth and turn to their books instead. bah!

And the wings when Male high elves wear plate, ugly!

and the awful Velious custom helms, cat hats and cone heads, barf.
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:53 PM
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Human Cleric is quite reasonably solid, even if it's not a popular minmax choice. Human Cultural Plate is far cheaper than the elf & dwarf stuff (at some point after Velious releases the elf and dwarf stuff will become much more reasonable in price, Ele can give the approx timeline). There are three dieties that have +wis as primary stat on Imbued Field Plate: Karana (grey-green, other players often mistake my cleric's armor for Donal's despite the lack of blue tint), Rodcet Nife (can't recall the tint, but I do recall it looked good on the guy I made it for tho), & Erollisi Marr (pink tint, looks good on fem toons.)

This is not an advertisement, I quit making & selling armor some time ago. The guys doing it now seem to sell it a bit cheaper than I did.
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