p99 has the worst raid scene of any game i have ever played and im quitting over it

[Daloon]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bro, you got called out for saying something that was verifiably untrue

You're either for loot deletion or you're not. Stating "it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people can break rules and keep the loot... ill have to think long and hard about it" is not the right answer.. Doing nothing is still something. And you're not my bro, whoever you are.

[Dillusional]

Yeah, deleting loot is the only thing that makes sense. If your guild nabs any raid mob less than 1/3 of the time, you are incentivized to break the rules every time if you only have to concede the next two. The whole concede two thing is left over from an era when there were only two guilds contesting the velious content. It was assumed you were nabbing 50% of the spawns and it was a real set back to have to concede two. Although in practice it saves you the effort of tracking the next two... for any guild that isn’t aftermath, conceding two dragons in ToV or statue/aow is meaningless and no penalty at all if you get to keep the loot...

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're either for loot deletion or you're not. Stating "it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people can break rules and keep the loot... ill have to think long and hard about it" is not the right answer.. Doing nothing is still something. And you're not my bro, whoever you are.

You do realize that you’re arguing as if your opinion is fact, right? And it’s not.

[Dillusional]

Waiting to see what the new GMs do about a guild that trains another over a raid mob they don’t end up killing. Can’t delete loot they don’t have and you cost the other guild loot by wasting there time during earthquake / cycle

[Daloon]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize that you’re arguing as if your opinion is fact, right? And it’s not.

I'm not saying you're wrong but ill have to give it more thought with more concrete examples.

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Good talk.

[DromalPhrenia]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The conversation with Detoxx was before Riot formed, and the STATED SERVER RULES say that there is a deletion. Just because no one enforced the law doesn’t mean that it isn’t the law.

wait so did the petition come from someone now in Riot? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of the big guilds have a permanently parked coth mage tracker for nearly every coth race target in the game, sounds like they logged that in and pulled with it?

also a lot of deflection in this thread trying to blame other guilds. This isn't Riots fault, and AG definitely makes a lot of mistakes but they don't intentionally break rules. This is only BG's fault that BG lost sev loot. Next time don't intentionally break a rule. Especially factioned tracker FTE + pull that's just blatant.

Eh I saw an AG Monk intentionally train Wyverns last week on a guild engaged on Eashen. He kept flopping to make sure they aggroed.

[Tipsyer]

Prove it.

[Vallaen]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh I saw an AG Monk intentionally train Wyverns last week on a guild engaged on Eashen. He kept flopping to make sure they aggroed.

That was dealt with and AG was apologetic, leave it.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Tipsyer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove it.

Hi, Alarti