TRUMP 2016

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really support anyone but Bernie Sanders, and youll get 4 more years of Obama.. Anyone but him will result in Hillary in the white house. Zero Repub candidates stand a chance this go around.

I disagree; let me explain. There is a large difference between Sanders and Clinton. Sanders is even further left than Clinton. Clinton is, imo, to the right of Obama who is closer to Sanders.

Any of the GOP candidates, with the exception of Trump, are well to the right of center. Trump is a lefty who has had a very recent "conversion" to the Republican party. Notice how I state that, since Trump is not a conservative, but is a Republican in name only.

So, here is how I see it. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. He appeals to the Democratic party base which is very polarized to the left at this time. Clinton is a moderate Democrat (she will not be a 3rd term of Obama). In fact, had she been president we would still see DOMA in effect and there would be no national policy on gay marriage. She has only recently came out in support of gay marriage and "rights" in order to play to her base.

The Republicans have Bush who is just right of center. He is, imo, a RINO. Opposite Bush on the conservative scale is Cruz, who is probably the most conservative of all the GOP candidates. Now pepper in between Bush and Cruz the rest of the GOP candidates and you have your scale. Trump is the exception, since he belongs over with the Democrats. I don't think he would have tried to run as a Democrat for two reasons: 1) he is great friends with Hillary (they have a long history together) and 2) he is a pragmatist that knows he has a better chance of tying up a nomination with Republicans than the Democrats whose base greatly favor socialism at this point in time.

None of these candidates give us an Obama 3rd term except for Trump, imo. Trump thought highly of Obama and agreed with his policies before his "conversion experience" to the Republican party.

FWIW

[iruinedyourday]

Yea thats all fine and dandy but none of that stuff means these republican canidatesstand a chance against hillary OR sanders.

Whoever wins the dem nom is who will win the election. Republicans are polling in the 20th percentile nationally lol thats an all time low, following an election where they lost by nearly 2x the electoral votes.

The republican party is as of now? Just a state elected party.

If i was a betting man i would bet a cent on the republicans.

My point is if you dont like hillary, bernie beating her in the primaries is the only way to keep her out of the white house.

[AzzarTheGod]

I agree with Lurikeen on mostly everything.

If trump doesn't get the nomination I'll move to sanders if he is still available.

I am hoping Sanders survives, because I don't believe Trump will. More people are ready to swing from Trump to Sanders than people realize. Trump is a big lefty.

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is if you dont like hillary, bernie beating her in the primaries is the only way to keep her out of the white house.

Not so. Hillary desperately needs the support of women. Her polling with women is consistently sinking, her largest issue being that of trust. Women don't trust her.

My bet is that if Biden gets into the race, he will get the nomination. If Biden stays out of the race, then Sanders gets the nomination while Hillary falls flat.

Of course, it is all too early to say what will be what.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Women don't trust her.

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[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree; let me explain. There is a large difference between Sanders and Clinton. Sanders is even further left than Clinton. Clinton is, imo, to the right of Obama who is closer to Sanders.

Any of the GOP candidates, with the exception of Trump, are well to the right of center. Trump is a lefty who has had a very recent "conversion" to the Republican party. Notice how I state that, since Trump is not a conservative, but is a Republican in name only.

So, here is how I see it. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. He appeals to the Democratic party base which is very polarized to the left at this time. Clinton is a moderate Democrat (she will not be a 3rd term of Obama). In fact, had she been president we would still see DOMA in effect and there would be no national policy on gay marriage. She has only recently came out in support of gay marriage and "rights" in order to play to her base.

The Republicans have Bush who is just right of center. He is, imo, a RINO. Opposite Bush on the conservative scale is Cruz, who is probably the most conservative of all the GOP candidates. Now pepper in between Bush and Cruz the rest of the GOP candidates and you have your scale. Trump is the exception, since he belongs over with the Democrats. I don't think he would have tried to run as a Democrat for two reasons: 1) he is great friends with Hillary (they have a long history together) and 2) he is a pragmatist that knows he has a better chance of tying up a nomination with Republicans than the Democrats whose base greatly favor socialism at this point in time.

None of these candidates give us an Obama 3rd term except for Trump, imo. Trump thought highly of Obama and agreed with his policies before his "conversion experience" to the Republican party.

FWIW

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[iruinedyourday]

Bernie Sanders spoke to a crowd of over 20,000 people in Massachusetts Saturday night. It was the largest rally in the state in recent history, according to the Boston Globe, topping the crowd of 10,000 that came out eight years ago for Barack Obama.

He just is rocking and rolling through the media coverage free run for the next Potus yall

[SuaSponte]

^Bro, I only read back a couple of pages and your ignorance is astounding. I'd vote for a socialist too if I wanted to sit on my ass expecting everyone else to take care of me. More time for video games, yeah? Get out of this country if you want to give up all the precious freedoms we enjoy in AMERICA.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

Oh and I won't be returning to this thread to read your mindless drivel. I already wasted 2 minutes responding that I'll never get back. I suggest you shut up and go make something of yourself. Because based on what I'm reading, you probably work at McDonald's and expect more than minimum wage for working an entry level job. Just..shut...up.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by SuaSponte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^Bro, I only read back a couple of pages and your ignorance is astounding. I'd vote for a socialist too if I wanted to sit on my ass expecting everyone else to take care of me. More time for video games, yeah? Get out of this country if you want to give up all the precious freedoms we enjoy in AMERICA.

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

Oh and I won't be returning to this thread to read your mindless drivel. I already wasted 2 minutes responding that I'll never get back. I suggest you shut up and go make something of yourself. Because based on what I'm reading, you probably work at McDonald's and expect more than minimum wage for working an entry level job. Just..shut...up.

What an angry serf. Get back to your field, serf, and work harder. The boss needs a 23% increase in income this quarter in order to afford a new yacht.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Doesn't seem like much of a discussion here.

Mostly name calling and passive aggressive troll baiting.